official photos that should be relied upon in this investigation are those you see before you today. [indiscernible] >> do you stand by your statement that there is no additional data to the public? what i do stand by that statement. -- you've welcomed again and again , the fbi holds an fbi on the search for two suspects in the boston bombing investigation. later, the senate so-called gang of eight holds a news conference on their immigration proposal. introduce, jus senators their own measure. during thursday's session of the u.s. house, members held a moment of silence in honor the victims of the texas fertilizer

land fir. >> mr. speaker, i rise today in the wake of two great tragedies in our nation. the terrorist attack in boston and a tragedy in west texas last night. thatdless of the risk modern life presents, i have -- i hope americans pray for these committees and hold your families tight. i want you to remember all those affected by the explosion in weston all those killed and their families and their loved ones. i would like to recognize the bravery of the first responders and the volunteers from our community and from all over texas who have come to the aid of those in need. house to thank our college for their many offers of support and i also asked for a moment of silence. ask all members, please rise.

mayorsident obama joined at an interfaith service in boston to honor the victims of the boston marathon bombings. the bombings left to the people dead and more than 100 50 people injured. , thewing the service president and first lady lady visited with victims still in the hospital. this service from the cathedral of holy cross in south boston is 90 minutes. >> ♪ but now i'm found ♪

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>> welcome to the cathedral of .he holy cross in south bend boston prays together. of are watching live images the interior of the mother church of the archdiocese of boston. this service was an opportunity for this community to come together in the wake of the tragic events at the boston marathon this week. --sident here is in the present here in the cathedral, president barack obama, governor deval patrick among mayor thomas menino, along with federal, state and local officials and leaders of faith communities around the boston area.

i am the president of catholic tv network, and thank you for returning us with this special presentation, "healing our city." boston prays together. the opening hymn for today's service, "praise the lord, the almighty," based on a german chorale, published in 1680, a magnificent hymn of praise to god. ♪

the music of today's service is provided by the cathedral, joined from a number of choirs from around the boston area, as will as the boston children's chorus, and a musical selection by yo-yo ma.

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>> you may be seated. there are age-old questions that rise up far too often these days, questions we all ask no matter what our fate condition or our station in life. how can a good god allow bad things to happen? where was god when evil slithered in and planted the horror that exploded our innocence? someone this morning has answers i do not -- but this is what i know -- god is here in the midst of this secret gathering, in this sanctuary, and beyond. different faiths, different races, strangers downed first by

loss and pain, but now clinging together and growing strength in a city that has always faced the the darknesson.-- head on. we are members of one another, our community of resilience, hard-pressed, but not defeated, unfounded, but not consumed. we are gathered in community, and through the blur of each other's tears, and the breaks of -- and the beats of so many broken hearts, we will rise in community and face whatever the future holds resolutely as one. this is what is demanded of us, and this is who we are.

god is here in our resilience. the grit that gets us back up again, and nothing taken will be forgotten or lost in vain. this is how god works. good morning. i am reverend liz walker from roxbury presbyterian church, and i lcome you as wgather in commto help heal our beloved city and this violence- weary world. let us pray. creator god, in the beginning, you said let there be light, and the light shone, piercing the darkness. help us find our way through the darkness now. you taught us we belong to each other. help us hold each other now. we pray comfort for those who have lost loved ones, courage

for those who are struggling to the trauma of physical and psychic paand tenderness to those for whom the world no longer makes sense. lord, bless this broken hearted city as she finds her balance, dust yourself off, and tilts her head back toward the sky. open our eyes to your presence this morning. open our hearts your grace. restore us so that we can see and be tall light once again. and all that we hold holy, for me that is jesus christ, but the people of god together say amen. >> amen.

>> reverend liz walker offering the greeting. the greek orthodox bishop. >> it is milege high honor of representing the greek orthodox community of boston and new england at this interfaith service at healing. this past monday, a day rich with symbolism, a terrific actor of terrorism wounded the heart and soul of our city and our nation. thousands from throughout the world were in boston as participants and spectators of the marathon, which, as we all know, recalls a run from the ancient city of marathon to

athens to announce the victory of greece over the forces of an empire that devalued freedom, human dignity, and democracy. the boston marathon always coincides with patriots day, when we commemorate the battles of lexington and concord, the first of the american revolution. sadly, it was on patriots day when we celebrate the values of freedom and democracy and a fiercely independent spirit of america -- it was on that day that evil reared its ugly head once again and countless, innocent men, women, and children fell victims to a senseless and unspeakable act of brutality. t we know that bombs of terrorism may kill and injure,

but they cannot crush the american spirit. today we thank cardinal o'malley for opening the embrace of his cathedral to all of us, to president obama, to governor patrick, to mayor menino, to all who are in public service, to the religious leaders of the commonwealth, to every citizen regardless of creed, we gather as a community, as brothers and sisters in the household of god to bow our heads in silent prayer for the repose of the souls of three innocent victims whose lives were violently taken and for the countless victims who will bear painful wounds for the rest of their lives.

we come today to thank god for the police and firefighters, the national guard, for the doctors and nurses, for all who responded selflessly and courageously. we pray our gracious, loving, and compassionate, our merciful god, the healer of our souls and bodies, watches over us and comfort us in our pain. and may he who is the prince of peace, may he bring peace to our souls and to our community, and may almighty god bless us. >> the greek orthodox leader, spiritual leader of boston and new england.

speaking now, mayor thomas menino, the city's longest- serving mayor, recovering from some recent leg surgery. it is great to have the mayor with us today. you are watching live coverage of "healing our city," an interfaith service from the cathedral of holy cross. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> this is a good morning, because we are together.

we are one boston. no adversity, no challenge, nothing can tear down the resilience in the heart of the city and its people. hatred stirs up strife, but love covers all sins. since the clock struck that fateful hour, love has covered this resilience city. i have never loved it, this people, more than i do today. we have never loved it more than we do today. ove thbre ho ft

the blast and still raced through the smoke, [iisrnible] awecrs those injured. this was the coura of our city at work. we love the fathers and brothers. we took shirts off their backs to stop the bleeding. the mothers and sisters who cared for the injured, the neighbors and the business owners, the home owners all across the city, they opened their doors and their hearts to the weary and the scared. they said what is mine is yours. we will get through this together. this is the compassion of the city at work.

we never loved the heroes who were our uniforms more than we do this hour. boston's finest in their blue, they carried kids to safety and calmed the city in crisis. emt's performed miracles. we love the national guard, our service members and who brought to our streets. the volunteers, the nurses [indiscernible] as the victims of the grave injured arrived. this was the strength of our city at work. have never d the

and es.oreor their pra we en love neworci more. "sweet caroline" played in lower manhattan. it gives us more strength to say prayer after prayer for the victims still recovering in hospital and at home. it gives us the strength to say goodbye to the young boy with a big heart, martin richard. we pray for his sister and mom, his brother and his dad, and it helps us to say we will miss krystle campbell who broughtrseu

lingzi, the student who came to the city to search for friendsn.who found new . we will never forget her. i am telling you, nothing can defeat the heart of this city. nothing will take us down, because we take care of one another. even the smell of the smoke of the air and the blood on the streets, tears ir eyes, we -- wephed over the heat on triumphed over that hateful act on monday afternoon. it is a glorious thing, the love and the strength that covers our city. it will push us forward next year, because this is ston, a

city with compassion and strength that knows no bounds. thank you. [applause] >> mayor thomas menino, the longest sitting mayor of the city of boston, speaking about the indomitable spirit of this city and a great convolutions of tionsd the great contribu of the police, fire, and emergency personnel who heroically assisted victims and the dying this past monday. offering a reflection now, the reverend nancy taylor, who serves as minister at the old south street church in boston. ♪

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>> lat athe nish line of e maraon, old south church in boston has developed a ministry to marathoners and they are a special breed. they are built of sturdy stuff. as we do every year on marathon sunday, the day before, we invite the athletes to worship, and they come in the hundreds. during the service we asked them to stand, and we raise our arms in blessing over them, and in the words of isaiah, we supercharge them, saying may you run and not grow weary. may you walk and not faint. this year, in the midst of all, in the midst of a peace-filled international competition unlike any other, explosions, chaos,

terror. from the church's tower, this is what i saw that day. i saw tough people run toward, not awroard e explosions, toward the chaos, the mayhem, toward the making of their own bodies sacraments of me and in the minutes and the hours that followed, i saw with my own eyes good samaritans taking off their coats and their shirts, wrapping them around athletes who were shivering, quaking with cold and whose limbs were stiffening, good samaritans who fed, clothed, and sheltered runners and families, assisted families, shared their cell phones, opened homes

least, guided strangers to boston's cow paths. today, from our tower overlooking the finish line, we continue to fly our three marathon banners. today we fly them first in memory of those whose lives were taken that day, and, second, we fly them with prayers for those who were harmed and those who grieve, for there is still much, much pain in the world today, and we're very far from being healed. and we fly them also in thanksgiving, for first responders who made of their own bodies sacraments of blessing. here is what i know to ske but t

ak anher's hate will not ke us haters. others' cruelty will only redouble our mercy. amen. >> reverend nancy taylor, minister, old south church. and the senior rabbi at temple israel in boston. >> president and mrs. obama, governor and mrs. patrick, mayor and mrs. menino, we're all grateful for your constant and inspired leadership, your compassion. it is a signal of the triumph of

order over chaos, of love over hatred. the gifted columnist anna quindlen wrote "grief remains one of the few things that has the power to silence us. it is a whisper in the world and a clamor within. the landscapes of all our lives become as full of creatures as the surface of the mind." we would wish and our prayers this morning to hold not only this city and its souls in our embrace, but to extend our reach to kindred spirits in newtown and west, texas. our arms are wide enough to hold you as well. as a rabbi once said -- [speaking in hebrew]

the entire world is a narrow bridge, but the important principle is to transcend somehow your fear. as we share our grief with those who have lost life or limb and for the constellations of families and friends who surround them, we turn to these words taken from psalm 147, verse 3 -- [speaking in hebrew] god, healer of the brokenhearted, and binder of their wounds, grant consolation to those who mourn and healing to all those who suffered loss and pain. endow them with strength and courage and reoro th a

to all of us whorie withhef fe s odse fill their hearts and hours with reverence and with love that we might turn to you again with hearts restored to wholeness and committed to the re-creation of well-being and peace. >> god heals the brokenhearted. we will now hear a reflection from the chair of the new england interfaith council and the civil rights outreach director of the american islamic -- the american isla mic congress.

>> in the name of god, the most compassionate and most merciful, mr. president, governor patrick, mayor menino, and fellow citizens, we are gathered together to mourn the loss of life in a criminal attack on our community. what happened on monday has shocked and horrified us, but it has also brought us together. i ask you to share the message my my community's culture.-- , community scripture. i want tcisa t ld i was living at the time in damascus, syria. one afternoon while walking back home from school, i experienced the terror of a car bomb that exploded on my route. i will never forget the sound of the blast, the rush of hy, and the anger and the fear. these feelings returned on monday. it is a line from the muslim

holy scripture, the passage declares it is inspired by the jewish tradition, that "whoever kills a soul, it is as if he had killed mankind entirely, and whoever saves a life, it is as if he saved all of mankind." on boston streets on monday afternoon, next to a great public library that bears among the many names that of the prophet mohammad, peace be upon him, we saw souls murdered, but also lives saved. one month ago, i was at another -- one week ago, i was at another ceremony in boston. i stood in faneuil hall with 400 other people before a bust of

frederick douglass and john adams that came from 77 different countries and all kinds of villages and background. a lonely immigrant from mauritania took the oath of citizenship. born americans may not be aware ofhat naturalized citizens pledge when they join the citizens of america. i was profoundly struck by words they recited. pdgde constitution all laws he united states of american against all enemies, foreign and domestic. and we pledged to perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required when i recited this pledge last

week, i cannot imagine that work of national importance by civilians would be required here in boston so soon. but now, all of us need to take up this pledge. we all have service to perform and indeed, we are all move by the thousands of people who stepped forward in a moment of tragedy and confusion to serve. i want to salute everyone who ran toward the victims, despite risk to themselves. everyone who gave blood, everyone who volunteered shelter for stranded runners, i want to salute the members of law enforcement who are protecting us as we speak and to thank the people around the world who are sending messages of hope and solidarity. before us, all the civilian work of national and international interest, no one has to take a a formal oath. we know instinctively that we stise to the od act because of our common

humanity. that is what makes us erans. one nation under god, and now, a prayer. dear god, o compassionate one, welcome in heaven those innocent souls who were taken from us and grant the surviving family members the strength to face their loss. heal wounds of those hurt last monday and heal the wounds of all bostonians who are hurting. united by faith in something greater than ourselves. the people of boston dedicate ourselves to the great task before us, to heal, to rebuild, and to serve once again as the shining city on the hill. amen.

>> good morning. this morning, the words of psalm 125, verse 3, have particular resonance. for the center of wickedness shall not rest on the land allotted to the righteous, so that the righteous man not stretch t their hands to do wrong. as we have confirmed so graphically this week, wickedness' does exist in this world, but we are reminded by scripture that god has put a hedge of limitation around us. it may manifest itself for a moment, but then has to relinquish the field to a higher, nobler power with an ultimate control. this is one become together in times like this as people of faith, to go beyond the

immediate dimension of terror, deaf, and loss, and to elevate our eyes to that sacred sphere, to place this terrible tragedy in a higher context, in a brighter light that can redeem it and infuse it with elements of hope, love, and unity. if we could not gravitate to that dimension were infinite good sits on his throne, at the very moment gazing lovingly upon this city, grieving for and with us and those who have literally a lost life or limb, then perhaps evil would have achieved the victory that it saw so fruitlessly on patriots' day. but we are people of faith. we believe in a benevolent god

who holds a steady hand over history. even as he allows hatred and fanaticism to have its moments, has also declared time and time again through the many voices of millennial faith that in the -- in ut this will always lways d, goodness will a prevail. that yes, weeping may stay for the night, but joy comes in the morning. events such as the one that raised us on that monday afternoon just a couple of days ago, reminds us that we inhabit a mysterious world, where a loving and sovereign god sometimes allows a flash of dark energy to penetrate our domain, but only to ennoble us and to extract from us an even greater measure of good and generosity.

the dilemma of evil is that even as it carries out its dark, sinister work, it always ends up strengthening good. and evoking even more strongly the very light that it so desperately tried to extinguish. we have all been inspired by the images of heroism and the just plain good is that have already emerged in the first few hours of this unspeakable tragedy. inur weakness, we ve been made strong. in our suffering, we have been inspired to pray for others. in our wounded this, we have-- in our woundedness, we have extended consolation. in our diversity, we have been a united. in our perplexity, we have been

led began to run to god and to remember that no matter how strong, fast, or successful we may be, we are ultimately children of eternity, able to find true hope and solace only in the bosom of our father, in the realm of prayer and spiritual humility. that paradox of weakness that we have entered into, we can become more gracious and more powerful, better channel for the grace of god to enter into this broken world. this is a small immediate comfort to those who lie right now and a hospital bed, contemplating a life that has been irrevocably changed, or who grieve a loss or wounded loved one. we pray, however, that they also may receive the grace to look beyond this moment of suffering

and to believe that their life is far from over, that they can lo and become spiritually strong and more agile, that they can find fullness of life and ppesand persal realization in the new normal that they now inhabit. may never allowed bitterness or hatred to linger more than a brief moment in their soul. may they received that piece that passes all understanding. maybe a will to translate into -- may they be able to tra nslate into their own spiritual language reassuring words of the apostle paul, who shelled separate us from the love of christ? shall tribulation or distress or persecution or famine or nakedness or peril or sword? as it is written, for your sake we are killed all day long. we are counted as sheep for the

slaughter, yet in all these things, we are more than through him who loved us. god's love will yet have the last word. god has not forsaken boston. god has not forsaken our nation. he merely weaves a beautiful, bright tapestry of goodness that includes a few dark strands. by fayed, we will leave this-- by faith, we will leave this sacred space today to continue that noble narrative of patriotism, self sacce and simple striving that was only briefly interrupted by evil, but that now continues, richer, denser, and more poignant than ever. may our faith be strengthened, that we might leave from here with his conviction.

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>> the boston children's chorus singing "up to the mountain." [applause] >> to our courageous president,

to our compassionate governor, to our mighty mayor, to all of you, matthew, chapter 5. now when he saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. his disciples came to him and he began to teach them, saying, blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted. blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.

blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness. they will be filled. blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see god. blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of god. blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. blessed are you, when people insult you, persecute you, falsely say all kind of evil against you for me.

rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven. for in the same way they persecuted the prophets before you. beloved, i believe jesus taught that to perceive the kingdom of heaven, you must see the opposite. when you see a loss, see reward. when you hear a cry of pain, hear a prayer. when you see sacrifice, see a sacred offering. and to those of you who have suffered, in any type of suffering, wherever you might be, the lord is saying to you, never lose sight of your future.

you who mourned, you will be comforted. you who are broken, you will be healed. you who have suffered loss, you will be rewarded. the massachusetts license plate says the spirit of america. and i pray the world right now, today, at this moment, will look at us and see the true spirit of america. >> cardina o'lley he in his own church, the cathedral holy s. >> on behalf of our catholic

community, i wish to welcome all of y herheal of the holy cross. it is an honor to have our president, our governor, and our mayor here with us this morning. we are so grateful to governor patrick for initiating this ecumenical prayer service. we are delighted that reverend liz walker and all art many leaders from the various churches and faith communities could join us here today. our holy father from france has asked me to communicate to you his sentiments of love and support. the holy father invokes god's peace upon our dead, consolation upon the suffering, and god's strength upon all those engaged in the continuing work of relief and response. the holy father prays that we

will be united in the resolve not to overcome evil, but to combat evil with good, working together to build an ever more just, free, and secure society for generations to come. this year's patriots day act ofless violencat s ca a of us great shock and pain it has made relive the horror of september 11 and is a stark reminder of the darkness tha can work in the human heart and produced such evil. and yet the same tragedy has brought us together as a community like nothing else ever could. the generous and courageous response of so many assures us that there resides in people's hearts a goodness that is incredibly selfless. we saw that when summoned by great events, we can be

remarkably committed to the well-being of others, even total strangers. we become a stronger people, and more courageous people, a more noble people. the police, emergency workers, even bystanders and passers-by did not hesitate to put themselves in harm's way to help the injured and the frightened. our presence here today is an act of solidarity, first of all for those who lost their lives. we are so happy that krystle campbell's family is here in the cathedral with us. we are all so in solidarity with those injured in the explosions, and wish to express our desire to support them and their families and loved ones. this patriots day shakes us out of our complacency and indifference and calls on us to focus on the past, of building a

the task, ofn building civilization that is based on dno and justice. trtslegacy of those first down their lives for the common good. we must overcome a culture of death by promoting a culture of life, a profound respect for each and every human being made in the image and likeness of god, and we must cultivate a desire to give our lives in the service of others. last week i was in galilee on the mount of the beatitudes with 30 priests from boston on retreat. there we prayed and listen to the very gospel that was read for us here this morning. the sermon on the mount is a description of the life of the people gathered by and around the lord. often in the gospels we can see the contrast between the crowd and the community.

the crowd is made up of self- absorbed individuals, each one focused on his or her own interest in competition with the conflicting projects of others. a community is where people come to value each other, to find their own identity in being part of something bigger than themselves, working together for the common good. the sermon on the mount in many ways is the constitution of the people called to live in our land. jesus gives us a new way to deal with offenses, by reconciliation. jesus gives us a new way to deal with violence by nonviolence. he gives us a new way to deal with money, by sharing and providing for those in need. jesus gives us a new way of dealing with leadership by drawing upon the gives of every person, each won a child of god.

fgifts ofing upon the every person, each one a child of god. in the face of the present tragedy, we must ask ourselves what kind of community do we want to be? what are the ideals that we want to pass on to the next generation? it cannot be violent, hatred, and fear. the jewish people speak of repairing the world. god has entrusted us with precisely that task, to repair a broken world. we cannot do it as a collection of individuals. we can only do it together as a community, as a family. like every tragedy, monday's events are a challenge and opportunity for us to work together with a renewed spirit anth t firm convictionolidarity, that love is stronger than

death. may hours be the sentiments of st. francis of assisi who prayed, lord, make me an instrument of your peace. where there is hatred, let me sow love, where there is doubt, faith. where there is despair, hope. where there is darkness, like. where there is darkness, like. where there is sadness, joy. grant that may not so much seek to be consoled as to console, to be understood as to understand, to be loved as to love. for it is in giving that we received. it is in pardoning that we are pardoned, and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life. amen. ♪

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firefighters and police officers and the emt's who ran blast, not knowing whether the attack was over, and the volunteers who helped right alongside. i am thankful for the medical professionals, from the doctors and trauma nurses and housekeeping staff, to the surgeons who finished the marathon and kept running to his operating room, all of whom perform to their very best. i am thankful for the agents from the fbi and atf, the officers and state police, from the soldiers from the national gud law enforcement personnel who both restored order and started the methodical work of piecing together what happened and who is responsible. i am thankful for mayor menino -- [applause]

mayor katz menino started monday morning frustrated that he not be at the finish line as he always did, and late that afternoon checked himself out of the hospital to help this city, our city, face down this tragedy. i am thankful for those who have given blood to the hospitals, money to the one fund, and prayers and messages of consolation from all over the world. i am thank for the present and steadfast support of the president and first lady, our many former governors who are here. thank you. [applause] i am thankful for the other civic and political leaders who are heoday, d for the many, many faith leaders who have ministered to us today and in the days since monday.

i am thankful for the lives of krystle and lingzu and little mark, and for the families that survive them. d for lives ofhe people who are hurt and still woketodawith thetomorrow. thankful, maybe most pecily, for thenuof peoin tro city and historic commonwealth who, in the aftermath of such senseless violence, let their first instinct the kindness. in a dark hour, so many of you showed so many of us that darkness cannot drive out darkness, as dr. king said. only light can do that. how very strange that the tower is unleashed on us should come on marathon day, on patriots day, a day that marks both the

unofficial end of our long winter hibernation and the battle of the american revolution. and just as we are taught at times like this not to lose touch with our spiritual faith, let us also not lose touch with our civic faith. massachusetts invented america. [applause] america is not organized the way countries or usually organized. we are not organized around a common language or religion or even culture. we are organized around a

hal of civic ideals, and we have defined it those ideals over te and threst d ir atack on our civic rituals like the marathon, especially on patriots day, is an attack on those values. just as we cannot permit darkness and hate to triumph over our spiritual faith, so must we not permit darkness and hate to try for our civic faith. that cannot happen, and it will not. [applause] so we will recover and repair. we will grieve over losses and healed. we will rise, and we will endure.

we will have accountability without vengeance, vigilance without fear, and we will remember, i hope and pray, long after the buzz of boylston street is back and the media has turned its attention elsewhere, that the grace this tragedy exposed is the best of who we are. fellow citizens, i am honored and humbled to welcome our friend, our leader, our commander in chief, the president of the united states. [applause] >> hello, boston.

scripture tells us to run with endurance the race that is set before us. run with endurance the race is set before us. on monday morning, the sun rose over boston.

the sunlight glistened off the state house dome. in the commons, in the pc sosonhis patriot's day, like many before, fs jumped onto the t to see the sox at fenway. in hopkinton, runners laced up their shoes and set out on a 26.2-mile test odedication and grit and the human spirit. and across this city, hundreds of thousands bostonians lined the streets to hand the runners cups of water, to cheer them on. inwas a beautiful day to be boston, a day that explains why a poet once wrote that this town is not just a capital, not a place.

boston, he said, is the perfect state of grace. [applause] and then, in an instant, the day's beauty was shattered. a celebration became a tragedy. and soe come together to pray and mourn and mease our ss but wels tr todto rechaste of g, to reaffirm that the spirit of this city is undaunted and the

spirit of the country shall remained undimmed. to governor patrick, mayor menino, cardinal o'malley and all the faith leaders who are here, governors romney, swift, weld and dukakis, members of congress, and most of all, the people of boston and the families who've lost a piece of your heart, we thank you for your leadership. we thank you for your courage. we thank you for your grace. i'm here today on behalf of the american people with a simple message. every one of us has been touched by this attack on your beloved city. every one of us stands with you. because, after all, it's our beloved city, too. aye your hometown but we claim it, too. it's one of america's iconic cities. it's one of the world's great cities.

and one of the reasons, the world knows boston so well is that boston opens its heart to the world. generations,ve you've welcomed again and again new arrivals to our shores; immigrants who constantly reinvigorated this city and this commonwealth and our nation. every fall, you welcome students from all across america and all across the globe. and every spring, you graduate them back into the world -- a boon diaspora that excels in every field of human endeavor. year after year, you welcome greatest talents in the science, research.

you welcome them to your concert halls and your hospitals and your laboratories to exchange ideas and insights that draw this world together. and every third monday in april, you welcome people from all around the world to the hub friendship and fellowship and healthy competition -- a erinof men and women of every race and every religion, every shape ery - a

multitude represented by all those flags that flew over the finish line. so whether folks come here to boston for just a day or whether they stay here for yrs, they leave with a piece of this town tucked firmly into their hearts. so boston is your home town, we claim it a little bit, too. [applause] i know this because there is a piece of boston in me. it welcomed me as a young law student across the river. you welcomed michelle, too. [applause]

you welcomed me during a convention when i was still a state senator and very few people could pronounce my name right. like you, michelle and i have walked the streets. like you, we know these neighborhoods. and like you, in this moment of grief, we join you in saying, boston, you are my home. for millions of us, what happened on monday is personal. it is personal. today our prayers are with the campbell family of medford. they are here today. their daughter krystle was always smiling.

those who knew her said that with her red hair and her freckles and hurt ever eager willingness to speak her mind, she was beautiful. sometimes she could be a little noisy. and everybody loved her for it. she would have turned up 30 next month. as her mother said through her tears, this doesn't make any sense. our prayers are with see lu family of china, who sent their daughter lungzu so she could experience all this city had to offer. she was a 23-year-old student, far from home, and in the heartache of her family and friends, we are reminded of the th therd that well

famidorcster, denise and her young daughter jane as they fight to recover, and our hearts are broken for 8-year-old martin, with his big smile and bright eyes. his last hours were as perfect as an 8-year-old boy could hope for, with his family, eating ice cream at a sporting event. and we are left with two enduring images of this little boy, forever smiling for his beloved bruins, and forever expressing a wish he made on a blue poster board. no more hurting people. peace.

no more hurting people. peace. our prayers are with the injured, so many wounded, some gravely. from their beds, some are surely watching us gathered here and if you are, know this. as you begin this long journey your commonwealth is with you.

your country is with you. we will all be with you as you learn to stand and walk and yes, run again. of that i have no doubt, you will run again. [applause] you will run again. because that is what the people of boston are made of. your resolve is the greatest rebuke to whoever committed this heinous act. if they thought to intimidate us, to terrorize us, to shake us from those values that deval scribe, the values that make us who we are as americans, it should be pretty clear right now that they picked the wrong city to do it. [applause] not here in boston. not here in boston. you have shown us, boston, that in the face of evil, americans will lift up what is good.

in the face of cruelty, we will choose compassion. in the fof tse who would visit death upon innocence, we will choose to save and to comfort and to heal. we will choose friendship. we will choose love. scripture teaches us, god has not given us a spirit of fear and timidity, but of power, love and self discipline.

that is the spirit you have displayed in recent days. when doctors and nurses, police and firefighters emt's and guardsmen run toward explosions to treat the wounded, that is discipline. when exhausted runners, including some of our troops veterans could never have expected to see such carnage on the street back home, become first responders themselves tending to the injured, that is real power. when bostonians carry victims in their arms, bring them water and blankets, lined up to give blood, open their homes to strangers, give them rides back to reunite with their families, that is love.

that is the message we send to those who carried this out and anyone who would do harm to our people. yes, we will find you, and yes, you will face justice. [applause] we will find you. we will hold you accountable, but more than that, our to our way of life, to our free and open society, will only grow stronger. for god has not given us a spirit of fear and timidity, but one of power, love, and self

discipline. like bill, 78 years old, the runner in the orange tank top who we all saw get knocked down by the blast. we may be momentarily knocked off our feet, but we will pick ourselves up. we will keep going. we will finish the race. [applause] in the words of dick hoyt, who has pushed his disabled son rick in 31 boston marathons, we cannot let something like this stop us.

this does not stop us. that is what you taught us, boston. that is what you have reminded us. push on, to persevere, to not grow weary, even when it hurts, even when our heart aches, we summon the strength that maybe we did not even know we had, and we carry on. we finished the race. we finish the race, and we do that because of who we are. and we do that because we know that somewhere around the bend, a stranger has a cup of water.

around the bend, somebody is there to boost our spirits. on that toughest mile, just when we think that we have hit the wall, someone will be there to cheer us on and pick us up if we fall. we know that. [applause] that is what the perpetrators of such senseless violence who would destroy instead of build and thinks somehow that them important t is they don't understand. our faith in each other, our

love for each other, our love for country, our common creed that cuts across whatever superficial differences there may be, that is our power. that is our strength. that is why a bomb cannot beat us. that is why we don't hunker down. we don't cower in fear. we carry on. we race. we strive. we build and rework and we love and we raise our kids to do the same, and we come together to celebrate life and to walk our cities and to cheer our team, when the sox and celtics and patriots and bruins are champions again, the crowd will gather and watch a parade go down boylston street, and this time next year, on the third monday in april, the world will return to this great american city to run harder than ever theto cheer even louder for

118th boston marathon. [applause] tomorrow, the sun will rise over boston. tomorrow, the sun will rise over this country that we love. this special place, this state of grace. scripture tells us to run with

endurance the race that is set before us. as we do, may god hold close those who have been taken from us too soon. may he comfort their families, and may he continue to watch over these united states of america. [applause] >> words of comfort and encouragement from the president of the united states, barack obama.

>> as we come to the conclusion of our per se service this morning, just a reminder to everyone here in the cathedral to remain in their places until the president and mrs. obama have securely and exited the building. i would like to invite you to kindly stand up for our concluding blessing. >> the lord be with you. let us pray. made the lord preserve your going forth and your coming in. may the lord bless you and protect you. met lord smile on you and be gracious to you. may the lord show you his favor and give you his peace. amen. ♪

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♪ >> the fbi is a listing the public's help to find two suspects. videos and pictures are available. the special agent spoke to reporters thursday for about 10 minutes. i am rick deslauriers. since monday's bombings, our partners have been working around the clock and are fully investigating the matter to bring those responsible to justice. our law enforcement team has

pursued thousands of leads and tips. as i said two days ago, we are working methodically and with a sense of urgency to identify those responsible. within the last day or so to that careful process, we developed a single person of interest. not knowing that the individual was acting alone or in concert with others, we have worked with extreme purpose to make that determination. the entire force of the federal government, the fbi in boston, as well as our partners in the boston police, atf, massachusetts state police at more than 30 agencies of the boston joint terrorism force, have set about to ensure that all responsible for the bombings will be rocked to justice. it was done to ensure the safety of the city of boston,

the commonwealth of massachusetts and the country. the fbi developed a second suspect in that process. we are enlisting the public's help to identify the suspects. after a detailed analysis, we are releasing photos of these two suspects. they are identified as a suspect one and suspect two. they appear to be associated. suspect one is wearing a dark hat, suspect two is wearing a white hat. suspect two sent him a backpack at the site of the second explosion just in front of the restaurant. we strongly encourage those at the forum restaurant for not contacted us yet to do so. as you can see from one of the images, suspects one and two appeared to be walking together through the marathon crowd on boylston street in the direction of the finish line. the image was captured as they walked on boylston street. the quality of the photos is quite good but we will continue to work on developing additional images to improve

their identification value. further on fbi.gov, we have photos of the suspect posted f the public and media to review and publicize. for clarity, these images should b ic should view to as uother phoe deemed credible and they divert pu'teion in the wrg directiod und work for resources. the fbi has relied upon the public. we know the public will play a critical role in identifying and locating these individuals. somebody out there knows these individuals as friends, neighbors, coworkers, or family members of the suspect. it may be difficult for the nation is counting with those on

information to come forward and provide it to us. seeminglyhow small or inconsequential is too small for us to see. it is important to contact us with information regarding the intensities --the identities of the suspects and their locations. we consider them to be armed and extreme way dangerous. no one should approach them. no one should attempt to apprehend them except law enforcement. let me reiterate that caution.

do not take any action on your own. if you see these men, contact law enforcement. if you know anything about the bombings or the man pictured here, call the telephone -- 1- 800-ca-fbi. all call be kept confidential. we have also established a website for tips that directly relates to the bombing. contact us at bostonmarathontips.fbi.gov. the photos can be viewed on our website at fbi.gov. the images from monday are indelible in the horror of that day will remain with us forever. this further underscores our obligation to investigate this crime judiciously to bring the -- to bring those responsible to justice. the victims and the survivors deserve nothing less. the fbi is committed to ensuring that victims receive the rights they are entitled to and the

assistance they need to cope with the crime. treating victims with respect providing them with assistance, benefits, and assistance will better our cases. our resources include an office of vtiassistance at fbi headquarters. we provide victims with the support and resources necearto . our victims specialist team works arouhe clock to bring assistance to the victims of this hnous act. idand locating those responsible is now our highest priority. no other details of the investigation will be released at this time because this is our focus now. it continues to be an ongoing, active investigation.

we view thotogese phphs and contact us at 1-800-call-fbi or fbi.gov immediately. thank you very much. [inaudible] >> i would not want to comment on that right now. >> [indiscernible] >> were both suspects seen with these devices? >> the only one observed planting is suspect number two with the white cap. it was within minutes of the bomb going off. at this time, these are the people of interest to the fbi. >> do you have any information on what they did after the explosion? >> suspect number two proceeded west on boylston street.

that is all we know right now. country -- what does it do to the investigation when things like this get out? >> i just that question in my statement by saying the only official photos that should be relied upon in this investigation are those you see before you today. [indiscernible] >> do you stand by your statement that there is no additional danger to the public? >> i do stand by that statement. there is no i additional imminent danger we are aware of right now. >> tonight the senate a innovate hold a news conference on immigration proposals.

after about, they introduced their own immigration proposal. then janet napolitano testifies about national security and the 2014 budget request. later, president obama speaks of the interfaith service for boston bombing victims. up, rebecca kaplan discusses bipartisan immigration reform put out by digging of age. then a look at the latest developments in -- put out by the gain o eightng olater o gue. census bureau and the housing council. washington journal is live every morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span.

friday the senate judiciary committee examines the reform 8.ofsal by the gain o eightng live coverage starts up 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> i urge you to come up with the number to tell the american people we have our responsibility as well as. for you to say we will see how things turn not, i believe it is a tragic mistake we may pay a heavy price. that? i comment on i did not say to be vague.

inextricably linked to the level we need. >> you of to wait until 2014 to determine five a? >> we do not i suggest this is their first summer. this summer will be the bellwether into 2014 and beyond. >> this weekend the marine expected 2014 troop numbers. at 8:30, the dedication of the meeting room. he was fatally shot as he rushed the gunman who wounded his boss, and sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern from london, portions of margaret thatcher's funeral service. , booktv heads to los angeles for the the "l.a.

times" festival of folks. -- books. and we looked up revolutionary- revolutionary-- era printing. >> second prize winners in the student competition. , a state ofntary the city, they asked the president to find solutions to social and economic problems that plague many urban cities througho t u.s >> long before barack obama was president he worked as a community organizer after

college. president obama said part of why he went into business was to make a difference on the south side and even in parts of the country. not much has changed for many in chicago, detroit, philadelphia, and many other poor urban centers. >> she grew out of chicago and was very active, yet he has not shown any particular focus on that in his presidency. >> barack obama spoke about the white community organizing .nspired him politically >> doing work in the community to try to bring people together the have fallen on hard times, to set up training in areas that have been hard hit when steel plants close, that is relevant only in understanding where i am coming from, who i believe sen.

>> we begin to wonder how to some cities get this way. to find out, we spoke to several experts about urban decline. >> when the government gave a lot of support for homeownership and encourage peopleo buy inexpensive houses out on the fringe and left the inner city behind. create newush to towns and hi. of's forget there is a lot value in the old communities. >> a lot of detroit was planned and developed around the automobile. when you look at what has

, some of the factories have moved out of the city. some of them are not functioning any more. were people's jobs. those people are now gone, so one big issue we are facing is a population loss. example ofis a prime urban decline. crime and poverty have been exacerbated by racial tensions. whites were leaving the city in unprecedented numbers. >> most of the e surbs. intowing people who moved , it started in the 1950's and the 1960's with whites moving out of central detroit

further and further. is what do weue .o with the vacant land we have had close to 40 square les of vacant. only an example of the .roblem faced in many cities >> we have had plenty. industrialy the old cities have these problems. >> there is a lot our local governments can do to slow urban decline. is through your church, through the 16th, one of

the big things we want to do is make sure the community got to say what its needs were. power of urban revitalization was done a local level. >> urban issues have become a smaller priority for presidents. it is time to change stock. >> you have got to reach out to people and let them know what issues are and why this matters to me. >> of we can create a scenario where the public sector and courageous private sector involvement, both should know what they are doing. >> efforts include government

involvement and private growth. prospered, and we we theenthe mwest we stopped doing that. our city crumbled, but today we are in the midst of a new revolution, when entrepreneur should it is alive and well, specifically in diversifying the economy. >> we ask what he would say. >> come see us in detroit, but there are a lot of great things happening here. .ome see what we are doing here >> many campaign promises were made. the most important should be the promised president obama made to himself. in for prestige or wanted to change the lives for

the better. politics forinto prestige or wanting to change the lives for the better. the best way would be to change the people or communities the spur them to action. >> congratulations to all the winners. videos, andwinning studentcam.org. >> they say it is not perfect but it is a balance. the group is made up of senator mccain, rubio, d bennett. minutes. conference is 50 afternoon. we are here to announce that eight senators from opposite sides of the political aisle are coming together on a common sense immigration reform

proposal we believe we can pass the senate. i want to thank my colleagues. each of us is strong-willed. each of us has differing beliefs, but if you would have seen that room in any of our meetings and seen anyone argue strongly but come together and realize we have to pass the bill and not everyone was going to get each thing he wanted, and it was the site that would give you future of ourthe mo on a morning like this. we know our immigration system is broken, and it is time to get to work. immigration is vital to securing our borders and insuring access to the great american dream. the current status quo on

immigration makes no sense. we turn away people who could create thousands of jobs and let people across oor who keway jobs. our approach is in balance. no. order securities are stron but achievable. the path to citizenship is tough but not acceptable. it treats the situation of those living in the shadows as an equally urgent priority. we believe americans will support sensible solutions to dealing with the undocumented and future immigrants, but only if they are convinced there will not be future waves of illegal immigrants. when the 11 million here come out of the shadows, it will not only ruin their lives and their

families' lives. it will strengthen the country and the economy. the conservative economist hopes immigration reform will save 2.7 trillion dollars. we want this legislation to meet the highest possible standards of openness and transparency. the bill has been online since tuesday night. we have not begun markup since the first of may, giving three weeks to read this bill. chairman leahy has proposed extensive market, and they include leading proponents of immigration reform, who will have ample opportunity to challenge our i did see those. .-ur ias we ae a full andr debate on the floor. to takeas pledged it up later than june.

no one got everything they wanted. there wereen when it looked like an agreement would not come. negotiations were particularly intense, but realizing the high stakes, business and organized labor rows to the occasion -- rose to the occasion. when they signed their names to the effort, it became clear an agreement was possible. well.stakeholders came as many were here today, and we thank you all for helping make this dream of reality. if you are wondering why we are confident we can be these folks here.

an unprecedented coalition has formed in favor of immigration reform, farm workers, growers, business leaders, the faith community, some of the most well-known conservative activists in washington, and some of the most progressive. powerful outside forces have helped defeat other initiatives in washington, but on immigration, the opposite is proving true. i'm convinced this issue will not fall victim to the usual partisan gridlock. and we are mindful that we approach our task at a moment when the public s ner been more fed up with congress, but in a week when disillusionment with politics is being acutely felt, this bipartisaough offers hope. despite strong personalities, and even stronger disagreements on many issues, we met in the middle for the common good. that bill has proved the art of political compromise is not dead. in conclusion, today is just the

beginning of our voyage. it will be long and arduous. there will be perils we cannot even anticipate. but we start off with optimism, because this bipartisan agreement gives us a sturdy ship to ride out the storm ahead. astly, i would like to mention some one who could not be here, but who is on the minds of all of us today, the late ted kennedy. he is a hero to many of us on both sides of the aisle, and especially on this issue. in many ways, our work picks up where he left off. and now i would like to turn the podium over to ted's longtime partner on this issue, a man who has become a great personal friend of mine, john mccain. [applause]

thank you, chuck, and thank l of y, and i nt obviously express my deep appreciation to all of my seven colleagues. that agull known in the senate get along with. but i must say they put up with my tantrums and they put up with a lot, and i want to say thank you to all of you for really doing something that america deserves. to paraphrase churchill, this is not the end of the process, but the end of the beginning. there is a long and difficult road ahead. committee hearings, markups, open amendments will be offered. some will be intended to improve it, some will be offered in hope of killing it. none of us expect the bill to be identical with the one we introduced today, but we are all

united in our determination that this, at the end of the day, remains a fair, comprehensive, and practical solution to a difficult problem that most americans can support and that stands a good chance of passing the house and being signed into law by the president. the legislation is not perfect. there are provisions that most if not all senators can support. some will appeal to more than others. no one will like every provision. neither should anyone oppose every pro vision. the legislation, we're offering is comprehensive and workableo immigration system that responses have not and cannot repair. the status quo damages our economy, disregards the rule of law and negligents our humanitarian responsibilities. a problem of that magnitude wil

r ddress never more necessary t address, either. th cannot bhieved by means othe political compromise and resolve to not make the perfect be the enemy of the good and that's what we tried to do. to reed on provisions secure along the boarder. we addressed the labor needs of a growing and competitive economy with a workable guest rker policy and sensible expansion of the h1-bv program. we enforce the rule of law. we've confronted the reality of amnesty for the 11 million or more people that came here illegally by proposing a a lengthy path to citizenship that

does not place lawful immigrants at a disadvantage and is doing everything possible to make our border secure. finally, we have recognized that most people who cross our border llegally are -- or over stay their visas have done it for the same reason that attracted other imlegal immigrants to find economic opportunity and live in a society that values human dignity. we violaon of theigration laws, nether can we have people desperate for a better life being exploited by human traffickers, abused by e zests. iminals andefo yes, we offer -- deserts.

yes, we offer a path to citizenship to those that are here. many of them make valuable contributions to our society and will provide even more if they are brought out of the shadows and in compliance with our laws. we are a nation with a conscience that can't tolerate the terrible violations of human rights that our current dysfunctional immigration service is unable to prevent. as i said, it is a lengthy path that does not proceed securing the border. we have tried to make it easier to work here illegally and harder to do so illegally. we have done our best to resolve this complicated problems, we welcome improves do the bill during the debate and the

amendment process. we will oppose only those amendments that are intended to prevent a comprehensive solution from passing. there is no greater satisfaction in this jonathan in wking with members from th peats in a good faith effort to serve the nation's interests. i thank my colleagues here for the privilege. [applause] >> thanks, very much to chuck and john. i can remember one of the earlier meetings of this group when we talk about what is the bottom line? what is nonnegotiable? why are we hear? the democrats saying we have to be fair to the american workers.

the republicans said we have to be fair in protecting our border. republicans came back and said yes, but they have to earn their way on that path. pay the taxes, pay the fine, learn english, have a your. it is not going to be easy. they have to earn their way. those were the basic principles that started the conversation. i think there were 24 meetings that took place as we came together for some times for hours at great thronte talk about this 800-page bill. it is not perfect but it is a ood faith approach to fixing a y brmmigtion system. there's many reasons we're here. first, american people wanus do something. the notion that we would end this process withhe same

broken immigration stem is unacceptable. we believe we came up th good approach that will make this country safer and more productive. second, i want to say something about an issue that touches my heart because i've been working on it for more than 12 years. that's the dream at. this is an issue that means to word to me and to so many people across the country. i thank to thank my colleagues here because the meeting we set aside for the dream act everyone said it is time. it is time. it is not just time because it is a good idea and there's wisdom behind it but we know the dreamers. the young people brought to this country by their parents with no decision in the process. the young people that are now stepping forward. remember, they spent most of the -- their lives being counsel ed,

if the police show up go quietly to the exit because you can be deported in a second. having learn that as children, they came to realize to be part of the political process they had to do the opposite. they had to stand up at personal risk and introduce themselves to america. three of the stories today, gabby came to the united states at the age of 7. she was the highest ranked rotc studhiool. she served as florida's junior student government. gabbytherers walko gton, d.c. to build pport for the dream act. along thway they were joined by hundreds of young people, some dreamers and some supporters. they called their trip the trip of dreams. gabby, thank you.

[applause] right here in the middle. came to america as a child. 2002 she graduated from a prestigious university in virginia. she has yet to work a day as a chemical engineer because she is undocumented. hank you for being here. next, she was brought to here rom peru as a child. she started the connecticut student farce dream, a statewide organization advocating for the dream act and she's the policy advocate of the country's largest organization of the country's immigrants. these women have dedicated to pass full time

comprehensive immigration reform to help not just themselves but their parents d their brothers and sisters. when i look at this, it reminds me what makes this country to great. when the gramings reform law becomes the law of the land i can watch these young people gans -- oath of alee aliegeance as this country is to their home. thank you. >> i think it would be appropriate to refer to the bill as the schumer and mccain bill. these two senators started the process and they have the smallest egos among us. [laughter] they would wear it better than the rest of us. but i hope the third time is the charm. this is the thirled time i've

been involved trying to fix this problem. think 2013 is the year to fix immigration. i really believe it. we're either going to get a bill or have one hell of a fight. why do we have 11 million illegal immigrants? more people could not get here for whatever reason. america is an idea. no one owns it. it is not owned by a race or ethnic group. it is an idea from 200 years and it has grown and gotten better. we will always have a problem as long as we keep that idea in tact and people will come here. that is the good new bad news. the good news is we have aight ontrol who wants to come here. people want to come here if they

have to walk thrgh aeser dor swim a river with a kid on their back they will come. that ia testament of what we've done as a nation. all we're telling the world, our friends we have to create order out of chaos. if you're here illegally, it's not much of a stretch from south carolina to imagine what it is like to live in this country illegally. not knowing if the next knock on the door if someone is coming to take you and your family away. it is not much of a stretch to live along the border of arizona and texas and have people go through your backyard and do havoc. bop mendez has been one of the strongest advocates for the 11 million. i think we provided a solution worthy of this nation. about the pathway to

citizenship, pay a fine, learn establish, pass a criminal background check. half of my family would be excluded. this is no easy task. i'm glad we're not applying it to ourselves. the hope is that america, i know is ready for immigration reform. look at all the pollings. is the congress ready to do something we should have done something a long time ago? i believe we are. beyou think the security can bettered secured we have an idea yoonde if you think the labor force is too hard to access we idea for. if y are wor about losing your job because of cheap lor coming into the country, we have an idea to prevent that. if you're in this shadows and worried about what is going

happen to you, we have a solution. you have to earn the right to be an american. it is fair, it tough, it is going to be available. i have one goal, there would not a third wave of illegal immigration. ronald reagan game amnesty to three million people and the congress followed through. if we don't fix a broken immigration system and do all the things we should have done 20 years ago shame on us. this bill fixes the problem, in my opinion. i'm going to fight for this bill. if you got a better idea bring it on. if you want to kill it we're going to have a talk about that. i'm going read one paragraph. we've always welcomed new comers to the united states and we'll continue to do so. in order to qualify for the honor and privilege or

citizenship our laws must be followed. the world depends on america to be strong. the establishment of a stable justice and efficie immigration system only supports those goals. we have a right to make our borders safe. to control the flow of legal immigration and eliminate illegal immigration, which in some cases has become a threat to our national security. up par -- paragraph sums what i'm trying to do. to our fellow citizens, we no that congress is broken. this is an effort by four democrats and four republicans to prove to you and the rest of the members of the senate and the rest of the house it doesn't have to stay broken. thank you. [applause]

>> let me start off by saying it was an extraordinary experience ith my seven other colleagues. having the benefit of the tenacity of chuck shume earn john mccain to get us to the finish line. but also to have members like lindsay graham who have little to gain from taking on a tough challenge like immigration reform but willing to do so ecause it is in the national interest, the economy, and what is right. you know, at the very beginning, i was aren't sure -- wasn't sure coeagues but after the first few meetings it became clear after tough negotiations talent re tgh moments that,ea to

problem of that has been too long gone unsved. so i want to salute each afternoon one of them. it is one of the highest moments i've had in the senate and nevpb the 20 years that i've been in congress. i'm looking forward to keep that goal,enacity to the final which is sending a bill to the president that he can sign. our immigration system is broken. americans know that, they want to see it fixed. this is about ensuring the security and preserving an american tradition that has had an exceptional reality of the greatest experiment of man kind. bringing people from across the global, driving to some of the best that america has to offer and preserving in a way that

recognizes our loss. as part of that i have said that one of the key issues is making sure that we find a way to bring people out of the shadows and into the light. to have the 11 million undocumented in our country, come forth, register with the government, go through a criminal background check. if you pass that criminal background check then get a temporary permit to be in the united states, pay your taxes, learn establish and ultimately have a pathway to becoming a permanent rez deants after that a united states cizendrm t path it is a tough pathway but it is an achieveable pathway. it creates a real opportunity for these individuals. there are some who will argue that we don't need immigration reform. well, i can't secure america

unless i know who is here to pursue the american dream versus who is here to do it some harm. unless i get millions out of the shadows and into the light i can't ascertain that. can't secure the nation until we improve border security and an entrance and exit strategy. i want to see any american who has a desire to do any job in america but the reality is i don't want to depress his or her wages the last thing i want is millions of people who can be exploited and through the exploitation create downward pressures on the weight of all americans. the reality is that in this economy are we're there are tough opportunities to try to find a job, there are some jobs in our country where we can't get anyone but immigrant labor it.

so if you had fruits d vegetables for brefa or dinner last night it was probably picked by an immigrant under e hot sun. if you have a loved one who is inif you remembered they are probably being taken care of the strong heart and terpped hand of an immigrant worker. if you have some of the best high-tech companies in the nation most of them were created by an immigrant to the united states. this is about ensuring that the national economy is promoted that we don't depress wages and we have people fully paying their taxes and paying their way and at the same time, promoting the opportunities for even greater jobs. because you can't be the hotel manager, you can't be the chef, you can't be the restaurant manager if you can't be able to

do some of the fundamental things that those businesses need. we ensure that in this way. finally, we are a nation of immigrants. my parents came to this country in search of freedom. the reality is they came to the greatest country on the face of the earth. to have their son one of the united states senators growing up poor and going to public schoolses an enorus pt the american experience. we he theve brightest in america. young men and women who came to this country through no choice of their home, they came here because their parents came here when they were children. the only national anthem they know is the star-spangled banner. the reality is america is their home. after enormous investments in them after education and they

have the opportunity to contribute to america's wealth, growth, and competitiveness we turn our backs to them. so this is a moment to meet one of america's tough examples in a way that it smart, secures our borders and at the end of the .ay preserves our history [speaking spanish]

[speakingpanish] thank you very much. [applause] >> actually i changed my mind. i'm kidding. [laughter] >> not again. not again. >> once was enough.

[laughter] >> it's been fun. one of the things that makes our nation special and dirvet from the rest of the world we're a nation of immigrants. it can't be said enough. what makes -- what distin wishes is because the a collection of the world's best and brightest. people who refuse to accept the constricts and limitations in society in which they live. they believe they are december stinned for more. people have come here, millions of people over 200 years ciety of all man kind. like every sovereign nation we have immigration lawanthey need to be followed. theule ha millions violation of the immigration

laws. this is a problem we have to solve and it makes it worse that have a broken immigration system. sitcomably kated even it does not reflect the needs of the 21st century. it is about modernizing our immigration system. it about attracting the world's best and brightest talent and keeping them. it is about ensuring that american businesses, not at thee american worker but businesses have access to seasonal labor as needed. it is about enforce our imgrailings laws. it is ensuring that the federal government does what it is supposed to a in a way that is effective. that's why we say the federal government has to secure it's border and if it fails the states most affected by it will ake care of it for them.

we want to ensure that the magnet of illegal unemployment is not drewing people here in the future. 40% of our illegal immigration problem is visas overstays. we have to deal with the reality, not theory but the reality that there are millions of people living leer today in violation of our immigration laws. they did violate our immigration rights and they don't have ae. t t bewe the inflation. it is not good for this country to have millions of people living in shadows. number two we're dealing with this issue because this is who we are. we are the most compassionate nation on earth. we're the people who welcome people from all over world in

200 years. we embraced it. because we did, those immigrants, each of us have created here the single greatest society that man has ever known. we are the decent events of the tired, the poor, the huddled breathe at yearns to free. it is tragic that a nation of immigrants remains divided on the issue of immigration. this must once again back our strength. i believ through this effort we can make this happen. let me close to one final point to my americans who share the belief in free enterprise who elected me. america is a nation of immigrants but republicans and democrats have failed to enforce the laws. we're not going to deport them.

so let's secure the border. let's bring these people out to feel shadows. they will undergo a background check, they will pay a fine, th will start paying taxings. they won't qualify for federal benefits. we all wish we did not have this leaving things the way they are that is the real amnesty. we have to fix it. [speaking spanish] thank you. [applause]

>> i thought i might go last to allow me to say i agree with everything that was said and sit down but jeff you're going to get that honor. i want to thank my colleagues up here showing me that the senate can work. it is going to take more for us to get this bill passed and it is incredibly impoortant for people of my state. the leadership of mccain and schumer throughout this process has been outstanding. it is everything i wish i could have seen from the first day i got here. when this bill is passed it will an affirmation of two great ideas. we're committed to the rule of law and we're a nation of imgranlts. it is those two ideas working

together that decadafter de has enabled every generation to ve future. now it is our time in the 21st century to decidehether we are still up to that task. invent the future -- not just here but for the entire world and recommitting ourselves to these two notions is going to be a central part of moving us forward. i want to thank the people in colorado who told me about how the broken immigration system is affecting their lives and their work. he peach growers, the cattle ranchers, the people working in the high-tech field, the people who were the dreamers when i was superintendent of the denver public schools. each one is struggling to get ahead and everyone feels

burdened by a broken immigration system that is not working well. they get up every day working with whoever it is, republican, democrats, neighbors they don't like to drive their family forward. the least they can except from the united states congress is that level of effort. it is going to take that level of effort to get this passed. i think the leadership that senator schumer and senator mccain has shown on this will guide us to the very end. thank you much. [applause] >> i want to say that in spanish. [laughter] >> i'm the new guy here. i just arrivedro the house this term. i was in the house last week visiting some of my old colleagues a onef them said, how is the senate, who you hanging outit

i said actually schumer and dick durbin. i never thought i would say that. i don't know what this bill will be called in the end, we can be assure that it will not be called the flake bill. this has been a wonderful process. let me tell you i'm new to the senate but i'm not new to this issue. we worked this issue in the house for naurm of years. i grew up on a ranch in northern arizona working alongside migrant labor. many undocumented immigrants there. i saw what they went through, i saw how hard they worked. i saw their motivations to have a better life for themselves and their families. this has always been a personal issue to make sure they can have a process and an opportunity to do what we allow them to do here. to the citizens of arizona who

are concerned about the border, let me tell you that arizona has borne the brunt to have a secure border far long time. let me say this is a good bill. the border security provisions have are sound and strong and we'll make sure they remain in the bill. let me say a word in the end, all of us want to pay tribute to our staff. to write. very difficult bill [applause] let me tell you translating conflicting or confusing members are difficult. as john mccain always said that reward will be in heaven. i appreciate being here. this is a good piece of legislation. we look forward to seeing it

through. thank you. [applause] >> ok. we'll take a few questions. >> gun legislation, for background checks it seemed like it would have bipartisan support. what is your going going to do to make sure the same thing doesn't happen with your legislation? >> first of all, i think we have a strong foundation. the eight of us did not getting together on a whim. we've been working for three months and struggling through these issues and each giving and getting to know each other. that is number one. second, i think i can speak for both caucuses, i think the majority of people in both aucuses want to get this done. people for different reasons, come frk different regions. other people are at extremes from those caucuses that don't but is ours to lose. i think we have a greatrodu

. it will need improvement but it will is strong and i think we have great unity among ourselfs that will keep this going through. i don't think it is at all like the gun control frankly, because i think the product that we're starting out with has broader then t on a broader basis guns did in the country. >> can i mention one compelling reason? right behind behind me. when you look at the representation areation of business, labor, across the board. this is a coalition. i never thought i would be standing here with them. i want to thank you richard. i want to thank our chamber and grover norquist. this is why we will succeed. it is because of this broad bass

and dedicated legislation. -- base and dedicated. >> they are the wind beneath our wings. >> can you justi amore people to the work force with above a nemployment is certain level it will come at a time when unemployment is low. in each case, every one of suss mindful of this, anyone who wants to bring in a new worker has to look for an american worker and advertise for an american worker. >> can you give us an idea on where you anticipate the biggest challenge in selling this to your colleagues? >> one word that underlines this

proposal is balance. there are things for almost everyone to like in this bill and there are some things that each person will not like. when you put it all together for a vast majority of people across a spectrum there's much more to like than not like. that's how i think we'll get it done. what is going to make it successful more than anything else is the need to solve the problem and the product, through a lot of hard work of our staffs have created with the backing of he people behind us. >> senator mccain, is there any particular element of this bill that you thinkf it were to be modified wou contribute to it falling apart. you said there are a lot of good thgs ibi but is there any particular thing that you would draw the line as a group and it would fall apart. >> as i said in my opening

remark, we're committed to good changes in the bill. this is not a final product. but we are also committed to vote against amendments or proposals or changes that would kill the bill. there's a difference there. we're not saying it is a perfect piece of legislation. we think it can be improved on. we also know opponents will be proposing amendments that if passed could collapse this fragile coalition that we've been able to achieve. again, i would like to point out, depend on how you ask the question. 70%-80% believe these individuals should be given a path to citizenship as long as they pay back taxes, pay a fine, get in line behind everyone else. they believe that is fair. that i think is one of the fundamentals that i think will

help convince my more conservative friends. yes? >> senator mccain, what is the main difference in the language of the bill compared to the mccain/kennedy bill? w much will the political -- [unintelligible] con tribute to a change in support for the bill? >> i think most republicans -- many more republicans than the last time are aware as marco and ob pointed out so, i think graphically that the status quo is not acceptable. the status quo is not acceptable. if you believe that then you will are willing to make compromises that may not fit your exact plan or proposal for immigration reform. that's why it is so important that the eight of us -- there is varied backgrounds and varied

view points and that's why we have come together. the other thing about it is and a little straight talk here. straight talk. republicans have got to compete and i say compete for the hispanic voter. passage of this legislation in my view and i think my republican friends agree with single vote in a from the hispanic community. but it puts us on a level where we can compete in a battle of ideas. we think we win with lower taxes, less government. we think we win. [laughter] let me just say -ri now a little straight talk. right we' n lvedn the minds of our citizens who feel this is a vital, important issue that needs to be resolved.

1955 when i was born how many workers were there for every person retiring in this country? 16. how many are there today? three. how many in 20 years? two. where do the workers come from? 10,000 baby boomers are retiring a day. one day it will be john. john's mother is 101. everyone is living like john's mother. that is the good news. if we don't reform medicaid and medicare we're going to be greece. if you don't have a legal immigration system to supplement a declining population you're committing economic suicide. here's the key to bring people from all over the world not just the people who live next door. bring them in on your terms not

theirs. to those who say we don't need legal immigration you're crazy. look at what is going on in america. we're declining population, we need the best and the brightest and sometimes the best and the brightest is the guy who starts as the janitor. 'm into this idea of lenting. tell me how it costs more to have people paid under the table, living in fear, roaming around the country undocumd versus having thein where they get paid over the counter, taxes are taken out and they get no benefits for 10 years. that makes no sense. the only way america loses is to do nothing. to those people who believe we don't need legal immigration in the future you're in denial about the demographics. for those who say this costs more to take people out of the

shadows and put them in a legal status and have them pay taxes you certainly lost me. that makes no sense. >> for those who want an establish translation of senator graham's remark i will be glad to provide them. >> one last question. >> everyone here in washington is concerned about cost, money. some members worry about this bill that the bill has budget in t to avoid -- [unintelligible] -- how do you respond to that? >> there are no gimmicks at all in this bill. we make sure this bill is revenue neutral. obviously, there is cost in this bill, securing the border, setting up the system, making sure the exit and entry system works. we also have income, inr fosgo

path to citizenship as well as fees for companies that want to bring in workers will pay. ne never knows how it works in c.b.o. we don't know how they will score it. for some reason that c.b.o. gets away from that, we will work before the introduction to make sure it is revenue newt tral -- deaf it is neutral. that is one of our bottom lines. thank you, everybody. [applause] >> opponents of the bipartisan immigration bill spoke with reporters on thursday. republican senators were joined by pennsylvania congressman and law enforcement officials to oppose what they call amnesty before border security. his is 20 minutes.

>> it is good to be with you. this is an important event oday, i think. senator will be here with us in ank you forri expertise on these issues. enforcing the law in the united states of any kind is tough. we provide rights and privileges to people that comen contact with automatically. a few loopholes in the produre can make it virtually impossible as these guys can say to do what

they are expected to do. as these officers will tell, your this administration has efied federal law. like in 2007, the special interest were brought in they have been engaged behind closed doors to help write a bill while the law enforcement officers and the one given the due toy the make sure the law is cle with has been shut out and the american interests, in my view. this bill is amnesty before enforcement. it has the promise of enforcement and the promise in the future appear to be weaker than they were in 2007. illegal immigrants will have the presumption of amnesty and

secretary napolitano has to do is submitt a vague plan in six months they may never get implemented. the provisions conclude a safety threat. no border fence requirement is in this bill. it is not a requirement in the bill. u n gotten the full story on this issue. you will hear alarming facts straight from the source. no immigration bill should pass congress that the law enforcement officers tell us won't work or can't be enforced. senator, good to have you. if you want to share a few quick remarms and we'll go straight to these gentleman. >> thank you. i'm honored to join the members of the house and the law enforcement leaders that are here. our message is simple and basic

but important. it is this, we're very concerned it is amnesty with promises of enforcement. we tried that model before and it failed before. we all want to solve this , oblem, not continue it certainly not grow it. we're fundamentally concerned that immediate amnesty grows the that is what happened in 1986. that was the model in the 1986 reform. the promise was we'll do this once and never have to look back. of course, we didn't solve the problem. quad 't continue we druppl the problem. what three million illegal

aliens is 11 million today. when i say immediate amnesty because all the illegals that we're talking about get a new legal status. that happens before any enforcement is proved out. before anything is measured, before anything is assured and that fundamental model has failed in the past. we're concerned it would fail again. thanks again to all of these law enforcement leaders in particular who are fighting that on the ground. >> the president of the i.c.e. association. a former marine, someone i admire greatly. chris, share your thoughts. >> good afternoon. almost one month ago we asked for a meeting with the gang of eight to discuss law enforcement concerns. they told us they were not

taking meetings but they were meeting along with the pro amnesty interest. i got a late monday night meeting with senator rubio before this almost 1,000 page bill was introduced. i raised my many public safety concerns and pleaded with them to not drop the bill until these concerns are addressed. they dropped it anyway. this bill will put the public safety without doubt. it fails on interior enfoenises first, enforcement perha never. immigration ts fed a lawsuitinst secretary napolitano and i.c.e. director because both have refused to enthe immigration laws enacted by congress. d.h.s. and i.c.e. do not arrest

with the specific intent to misleading the american public with enforcement of the illegal immigration in our country. i.c.e. claims they have deported more illegal aliens than any time in history is false. i.c.e. claims they that it has led to more deportation of criminal aliens is false. i.c.e. claims that the border is more secure, likewise are false. at an alarming rate i.c.e. and deportation numbers have plummeted since 2008. clear evidence that interior enforcement in large part has been shut down in the last four years. it is an attempt to conceal i.c.e.'s plummeting arrests and deportation statistics, massive amounts of arrests are being transported to i.c.e. to boost their statistic call data. immigrant rights group work with

i.c.e. and d.h.s. and dictate the law enforcement policies welcome back the agencies, not the united states congress. under the obama administration immigration ajonetses can no longer arrest those who violate the law. we'tt anndid who illegally overstays a visa. immigration agents are prohibited from enforcing laws regarding fraudulent documents by illegal aliens. agents are forced to apply the dream act to adult inmates in jails releasing criminals back into the nation. criminals who have committed felonies, who have assaulted our officers and who pray on children. -- prey on children.

i.c.e. officers are threatened with the loss of their job simply because they attempt to enforce the immigration laws and provide for public safety. since the gang of eight has chosen to ignore law enforcement officers, i have a question i have that i would like to ask them publicly. dick rubio, chuck schumer, durbin, john mccain, lindsay raham, jeff flake, michael bennett, as united states senators the representatives of the people, where have you been for the last four years? what have you done to prevent political appointeings at d.h.s. from ignoring the laws of congress? what have you done to stop these same appointees from misleading

the american public and members of congress? what havu donto prevent daers criminals fbeing released back into american communities by the thousands? what have you done to protect america's law enforcement officers who not only put their lives at risk to enforce the ? ws and their careers as well of course the answer is you have done nothing. you sat on your hands and watched it happen for four years. i guess it should come to no surprise that you've done nothing in the gng of eight proposaled new legislation to address any of these problems. gentleman, we have laws right now that would be effective if withors like you would act inintegrityty and support law

enforcement officers. i strongly urge americans to disregard the talking points of the gang of eight and wait for the specific details of this legislation to become known. unfortunately, i do not believe that the gang of eight is a group that we can entrust with a matter so important to the safety of american communities and the security of our nation. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker will be sheriff sam page, north carolina national sheriff's association. >> good afternoon, thank you for allowing me to be here today. i'm sam page. i a the nationa sheriff's association. i'm thee chai the immigration and border committee. i serve 92,000 people and i

represent them them. concerns.e to express whenenact legislation in north carolina and it deals with public safety we have input. we should have input from the people who will enforce the laws. here in congress, i would except nothing different for them to encourges us to be part of the debate, the discussion. after with all, we'll be enforcing these laws. in the united states, our borders are unsecure. as a sheriff in north carolina, who has traveled to the border more than once and seen it with myself and worked with the officials there, i can't understand why the representatives in washington can't figure it out. it is not secure. when drug trafficking cartel embers are in my county with weapons, drugs, and money, and

in our countyd up that concerns me. homeland security begins at home. . at is a message i give you number two, amnesty is amnesty. call it what you want to call it. there is a process, it is called ul l us to do the right thing but i thank our senators felping would encourage the senators group of eight to engage and allow us to have opportunity to have input on this legislation that will affect the homeland security of this nation. thank you and i appreciate the opportunity speak before

congress. >> next speaker will be todd arieson of new mexico. >> thank you, gentleman. i live on the border and have so for about 50 years now. i've been a sheriff for the past eight years and our border are not secure. i'm currently the chair of the southwest border coalition and that is a reputation from arizona, new mexico, and texas. we have offered our services on the number of occasions to come down here and discuss the issue. being that we live on the border we feel we have knowledge of that. the current bill has been passed in hard to keep trusting our federal government on these issues and it is really frustrating.

we are public we are public servants, we have been elected to office to s the public and our concern is public safetyor our counties he was asking that we allow the federal government ha officers on the ground to protect our border. if we let them do jobs, we can secure the border and move forward with a problem at hand which is immigration reform. thank you very much. >> the next speaker, briscoe county, massachusetts. to thank you for your leadership on this issue,

insisting law enforcement to be included in this policy that will become law at some point. 5 million people are waiting behind the borders to begin a pathway to citizenship. people since 1986 have disrespected the laws of the country. want ane that americans immigration policy that is based on the premise of following the rules as the previous speakers have said. most people that emigrate to the united states afford them the opportunity of self-

determination. freedom to pursue a better life icnd sially. those freedoms are ma pe wee tl pte massachusetts, we have seen a large influx oimmigrants even though we are not a border state. e're working in unskilled jobs where employment is limited. mian a public health hazards, public safety concerns, living in homes and apartments with three families, taking mattresses off the streets that are infested. they are filling emergency rooms for a lack of preventive care and costing the taxpayers millions of dollars. the gang of that eight as put forward, i want to

commend them for at least seriously beginning the conversation about immigration .eform, albeit far too short what is happening, the previous speakers have said we are allowing the super bowl to be played in the stadium where 3/4 of the entrances have no ticket takers and no security to check people in. people wandering in year after since theyinally, have been able to do so, we will allow them to become season- ticket holders. notmately, we still have solved the problem because those gates are still unsecured. secure our borders before we can begin to implement

the other parts of this legislation. it is critical for us to protect the loss of the united states. not anyonee you that standing behind this podium as anti-immigrant. all of us he ancestors that have emigrated to this country. they're raised 13 children and did it the right way. if we allow them to go forward, and suggest that somehow the laws don't matter, then we effectively begin to erode the democracy further and create be incredible obstacles for all of us in law enforcement to be able to do our jobs to protect the constitution of the united states. asking the gang of they do what senator sessions and the other

legislators are asking. if we will make a comprehensive law that will effectively protect the people of the united states and allow for legitimate immigration to this country, you must include all of the parties involved. particularly, looking at the law-enforcement approach. >> thank you. i am the former mayor of ennsylvania. thes 2,000 miles from nearest southern border. not a place where you would anticipate having a problem wh illegal immigration. t we did. we saw the population continued ingrow and it grew by 50%

five years, but tax revenue remained the same. i remember we are arrested somebody for selling cocaine on a playground and the person arrested was in the country illegally that took the detectives five hours to determine who he was. he had five social security cards. it doesn't only affect people on the southern border. 40% of the people in the country illegally did not cross the border. they come on a visa and don't go home. the fraudulent documentation rings make it nearly impossible for law enforcement to determine who they are talking to. for a minimal amount of money, you can get an entirely new

identity. we have immigration laws for two reasons. to protect our national security, and to protect american jobs. the proposal of the gang of eight violates growth of those principles. those principles. it will make jobs harder to find for americans that can't find work. hw tofering tizenship or amnty, temporary amnesty indefinitely, weavencourageds re pele to sh to the ited statesly to benefit from this proposal. the border patrol chief testified that they are already

seeing an increase in border crossings and he said in part it is due to the proposed amnesty for illegal aliens. we should be doing one thing right now, securing our borders. nothing more. think ourod reason to borders are secure. won'tt what happened happen again. to put in simple terms, without border security first, it is like replacing your carpet at home when used to level in the roof. hole in the have a roof. theresident obama speech at interfaith service for boston bombing victims. after that, the fbi told a briefing for the suspects of the

boston bombing. >> friday, john kerry releases the 2012 report on human rights practices in countries around the world. we will bring it to you live starting at 2:15 eastern on c- span. at 4:00 p.m. eastern, a discussion on japan's economy. as japan's finance minister will be the featured speaker for the >> she was very bright, very political. which is why she at lincoln got together in the first place. she spoke several languages fluently, extremely well- educated. she had all of these things going for her, but she suffered a series of tremendous emotional blows.

what andour sons die, the white house another shortly husband's assassination. folks demonized her for that and thought she was crazy. we found out she was not crazy, but mary todd was a very significant person. i hope we get a better view of the range of things that influenced her life, and not just the tragedy. and ourtodd lincoln conversation with historians on monday night at 9:00 p.m. eastern. also on c-span radio. >> and john kerry testified thursday about the 2014 state department budget. the senator from kentucky asked him about for a day. you can see this hearing in its

entirety any time on our web site. >> thank you, secretary, for coming today. you mentioned that we do not meeticians go on and say thated t e and spend some of that money at home. this might comas ns for one theost prominent politicians that said we need to do less nation building a broader and more nation-building at home. toon't think this is unique republicans or democrats. it crosses all party lines. it is not me going home and creating an atmosphere, it is that they are doubtful. we have to bridges over 50 years old. the president came to talk about rebuilding them. i am in favor of rebuilding our infrastructure. but we seem to not have enough money to keep the doors opened

around here, to keep the doors of the white house open. the administration spent $250 million on egypt. many of us find that offensive. andan't run the government many of us are offended by this. worth more family is than $10 billion and people say that came from our foreign aid. ruling for many years in central africa, it is worth millions if not billions of dollars. they were famous for going to paris at shopping for shoes with a bagful of cash. that money was looted from the american treasur there were examples of t kleptocracy.

gy ile d't think it buys the goodwill of the people because it is stolen by the leaders that are unpopular in their country. i think we are missing the boat here if you think we are stoking the fires. this is something that is already in the psyche of the people. it is also the idea that a lot of foreign aid has been stolen by these leaders. >> i think there is a difference between some of the nation- a don't we have seen rise to low-level of nation- building. is crumbling, and we will

end up arguing about the smaller issues than the larger one. let me try to frame it this way. has the money been stolen? absolutely. because of the new accountability systems and the way aid is given now, something , aallenge with investment into the project and it is quite controlled. that is one of the reforms put into place. afghanistan pushed very hard to

work directly with the government and we said we will do it this way. you know, the people that have ripped off their own governments have not necessarily come from our aid, they have come from stealing from the revenues of their oil or selling the diamonds and rubies that they have in their resources ridge line. there are plenty of ways that people have enriched themselves to the diversity of their people. what they tried to change, installing a rule of law. nevertheless, we kept sending money over the years despite evidence they were stealing it. >> i did not make that decision,

and i will certainly review of any program we are engaged in now. to one thing about this. is onethis that we do penny on the dollar. i cant weo invest in the provider return on investment. weave stopped countless plot hich haveur country the fbi not cooperated and the cia and other entities not been creating some of the programs with interpol and the other things that we work with, we never would have done. americans would have died and they would have been blown out and if not for the discovery of it madestmas bomber, our country safer.

something gets abused. just as it gets abused in some parts of almost every government. >> janet napolitano spoke about the boston bombings and the state of the investigations. the focus of her appearance was the 2014 dhs budget request. ou i and 2 mites.

>> the committee onel rity wl come to order. to theretary related present fisc year 2014 budget requests, i now recognize myself for the opening statement. i want to thank you bng rein dfi timeur coury. events like the boston bombing transcend politics. today, as we search for answers and remember those lost and injured, we are reminded of how vulnerable we are in a free society. we also realize the truth of the core of this country that we are strong, resilient, and committed to continuing our way of life. in the moments following the explosions, we felt heartbreak

and witnessed heroism. from the first responders that arrived on the scene, to the marathon as that ran towards the .ictims in the face of great evil, it inspired us not to be intimidated by carry-on and care for each other. the spirit of the people of boston make us all proud to be americans. the tragic images of that they will stay with us. there is a silver lining in times like these, where we as a country become united. it was clear from that conversation that we are not republicans or democrats, but we are all americans that stand together.

as we embrace those affected by the tragedy, we recommit ourselves to never returning to a pre-9/11 mentality. we will never forget this heartbreak of losing our own and we owe them commitments and never become complacent. our intelligence and law enforcement are the best in the world. weilant. for every event like the one in boston, many are thwarted. hearings like this one today are meant to improve our prevention of these attacks. and to ensure that if they occur, we have the best knowledge and resources to respond. i want to commend the department for its involvement try to find those behind the spot. i appreciate the assurances that we are putting the full weight of the federal government behind

this search. i am confident we will succeed in bringing the terrorists to justice. we are all in this together. we are all equally committed to finding you did this and ensuring that they receive swift justice. this country is still a target ford it.iscussing we may not agree on the best way to ensure homeland's security, but we can say that the highest calling is to serve the people. today as we examine the priorities ofhe department, we hope we can identify ways to improve national security by insuring agencies working together for a common purpose.

that playe decisions a critical rolled in safeguarding the nation. thepe that you can discuss administration's plan to continue to support counter- terrorism and response efforts in addition to the many other issues. agencies, iendent hope that this after the creation can be a constructive for rum and i look forward to hearing the assessment of the proposed budget today. because of what happened in my home state yesterday evening, these types of explosions are extremely hard to contain.

with that, i recognize the ranking member of the committee, mr. thompson. >> i am glad that you are here to discuss the budget. i would like to loved ones injured in boston. we areth tas a former volunteer firefighter, i want to commend forheheic response. i might be remiss if i did not

acknowledge the lives lost in west, texas. authorizers, we bare responsibility to make sure that the government prevent attacks like the one that happened on monday. your job has not been an easy one. there were problems with morale , and we had no idea if we were better prepared to respond to a natural disaster or a terrorist attack. the department budget has been reduced. certainly made a future budget planning much more difficult. a verylear, you have

difficult job. i am concerned about the lack of progress on many of the fundamental problems that have plagued your agency since its inception. the department continues to be on the government accountability high-risk list. employee morale continues to be among the lowest of all federal agencies. the investment ieroperable communications. the compones are still not interoperable. and ieciate your efforts have some serious reservations about some of your proposals. i am concerned many of the new investments in the current

congressional environment strike me as a very heavy lift. i have questions about the proposal to allow cbt to accept money from outside stakeholders. in particular, i would like to know how this proposal relates to plans for the uae. i am concerned that the department has yet again proposed to consolidate 16 targeted homeland security grant pot.ams into a single it has been years since consolidation was proposed and they have not articulated the existing grant programs and how they will be maintained. , we limited resources

ensure that they are adequately funded. has two major, it initiatives. the immigratre ahe cycurity. -- youources that unique anticipated advances. >> opening statements may be submitted for the record. i would like to introduce the secretary. she is beginning her fifth year of service said one of the most important cabinet positions of the government. is asary napolitan siro governor and attorney general for the state of arizona. and she was also of the united states attorney.

record,appear in the and i now recognize the secretary. member thompson and members of the committee, before discussion of the budget request, if i might have a few words about west, texas and boston. i will begin with west and give you the most current information we have about the explosion. our sympathies and concerns go out to the families of those that have lost loved ones or had a loved one that has been injured. has issued a tporary flight restrictions over the area. the texas commission on environmental quality is providingitoring and chnil assistance. the test this -- texas task

force one is providing support. have turnedities off utility service in the area including gas and electricity. there is an incident command center and a tree are center but they have been moved for fears that additional tanks could be at risk. activated and stands ready to assist texas. office,e fire marshal's the other state agencies are also responding. the american red cross is working with the emergency management to identify shelter management assistance. , we have activated a

management team with a damage assessment teams, and we are standing by to assist in any other way. we remain at level 3, increased readiness. we will monitor a events over the course of the day and provide you with updates as they are relevant. m he ggh are examples of the kinds of activities that have been supported to the various grants. and increasing our capacity for response and resilience as a nation. that is the most recent on west, texas. boston, we are investigating this as an act of

terror. assisting ice as part of dozen areover four assigned to the office and helping in the investigation. bpd is assisting in a number of ways. andorked to close logan ground air for a few hours and institute special targeting rules. in case there were those seeking to escape the scene in respect .o fema it when you saw the response in level offter the destruction, the committee this st november, b h exeise on how l with a mass-casual the event.

that exercise wa of exercise by the ,ee hema increasing the ability for response and resilience. provided several productsteal lenrc out to aeen reaching faith based organizations and others that want to know what they can do. airports, transit hubs. the ferries in the boston area, termsare doing surges on of ground transportation. finally, with respect to the

public, we urge the public to remain vigilant. security is a joint responsibility. it is something that all of us can emphasize. and events such as boston remind us of the importance. the federal government led by the president, we are committed to make sure we bring the perpetrators to justice. moving to the budget, this is the tenth anniversary of the creation of dhs. years, we have transformed 22 legacy agencies into a singlentegted department. we have strengthened the homeland security e ameca better equipped to confront the threat that we face.

ill budget request allows us to ofe progress operatiol priorities. given the current fiscal environment, this is the third year that the budget request reflects reduction from the previous year. 2.2%, more than $800 million below the fiscal year 13 enacted budget. our missions have not changed and we continue to face evolving threats, but we have become more we useic and how resources, focusing on the approach. it has led the $4 billion in cost reductions through the efficiency review. the appropriations bill enables dhs to mitigate, to some degree, a sequester impacts on our occupations and work force.

over six$3 billion months, it will affect our operations in the short and long term. sustained cuts will result in reduced operational capacity, and economic impact of the private sector to reduced and canceled contracts. nonetheless, we can do everything we can to minimize impacts consistent with the operational priorities. may i highlight those? to preventerrorism, the enhancedecury continues to support thek-bad secu initiative. expect 1/4, we travelers eceive some form of expedited screening by the end of the year.

the administration efforts to secure maritime cargo, strengthening efforts to interdict threats at the earliest possible point. we continue our strong support for steak and local partners and information sharing on a wide range of, and security issues. edgeso find cutting development to address biological, radiological, and nuclear threats. to secure and manage our borders, the budget continues the robust security efforts while facilitating legitimate travel and trade. it sustains deployment of personnel along the borders as well as continued utilization of proven affected technology along the highest traffic areas on the border. to expedite travel and trade, reducing weight times, the

budget requests an additional 3500 port officers, 1600 paid for by appropriation. the increase to the emigration user fees that have not been adjusted since 2001. the budget in vests and recapitalization of coast guard the seven national security cut her. -- cutter. and the response of smart and effective enforcement of immigration laws. and the integrity of the system through initiatives such as deferred action for childhood arrivals and greater use of prosecutorial discretion. -- budget makes significant

its more cost efficient like a nationwide implementation of secure communities. adherents to work side related laws. while continuing to support alternatives to the attention reform and immigrant immigration efforts. comprehensive immigration reform will help us continue to build on these efforts and strengthen border security by enabling dhs to focus on criminals, human smugglers. next to safeguard as secure as cyberspace, this makes significant investments to strengthen cyber security, including funds the for the financial systems and against threats to the private sector and federal systems, the

infrastructure, and the economy. it suprt the executive order for cyber security and the presidential policy directive on critical infrastructure, security, and resilience. ent prevd detec intrusions on government computer systems. o ensure continued resilience to disasters, the budget focuses on a committee approached to emergency management that includes resources for the disaster relief fund, the presidentially declared disasters or emergencies. the administration is proposing a consolidation of 18 grant programs into one national prepared this program to create a robust national response capacity while reducing administrative overhead. this will use a comprehensive process to identify gaps,

identified and prioritized capabilities, put funding to work quickly, and required grantees to report on their progress. it is precisely this kind of funding that has enhanced prepared this in response , texas.ties with west the boston area may have received federal grant funding. it has been used to equip and train response teams, specifically in prevention, detection, and resopnse. -- response. including more than one dozen exercises involving the city of years. othe sever as i mentioned, this incd a large-scale mass casualty

exercise. due totmenover e past 10 years our state and local jurisdictions have greater capabilities to prevent and respond to incidents. our communities are better prepared. in conclusion, the budget proposal reflects this administration's strong commitment to protecting the homeland and the american people through effective and efficient use of dhs resources. membersn, rankig member, of the committee, thank you for this opportunity to testify. i look forward to your questions. >> i recognize myself for five minutes. thank you for your attention to the tragic events in west, .exas i want ask you about reports

for thee come out boston bombings, and who i thought if you could tell us about the development. videohave been collecting from a variety of sources, the finish line of boston marathon, there is lots of video. there is video that have raised the question of those that the d li to speak with. i d not characterize them as suspects under the technical term, but we nheocinthese divid. >> there are reports that the fbi had persons of interest or suspects in custody. my response based on the information i had was that it

was not accurate information. can you elaborate on that? accurate, there were no arrests made or persons held in custody. there has been a fair amount of involving the investigation. having spoken repeatedly with the fbi director, there is a for federalshed out resources up there. an ncis episode, sometimes you have the properly put the chain together to identify the perpetrators. everyone is committed to seeing that gets done. >> the prosecutors know it is a complex investigation.

the forensics on the device is some of the best evidence we have right now. pressure cooker ied has really gained a lot of attention. for the first time, americans know what that is. we have known about it for quite some time. the article of how to make a bomb in the kitchen of your mome department is doing in its to prevent the occurrence >> instructions on how to make complex ones or are inspired through things like the anarchist's cookbook on the internet, generally. we run into the issue of speech,

writings versus actual activities. one of the things we have been doing ha, we now have a joint program office with dod in terms of combining efforts to improve the capability to detect something before there is an explosion. but that is difficult. veryare doing some interesting research that might result in some positive development. the measure of question presupposes, it is commonly available recipes for making various kinds of ied's. >> we can't reach to conclusions, we do not know if domestic foreign or

terrorist plot? >> we can say one way or the other. >> you mentioned the bomb it leads countering ied devices, responsible, and the like. in your budget, you have decreased it by 8%. in light of the boston bombings, would you reconsider this budget request? >> we are obviously able to do that. if you look at the budget, one of the things we have done is convert some of the in person

training to online training. it helps mitigate costs. some of the bombing prevention and research being done -- 45%, in lightike of the bombings, would you reconsider that request? >> we will make sure that it is properly resources. that itn is denied your original funding -- time is limited.nis. when we talk about the border,

that is the last line of defense, keeping the threat out of this country. proponent of big border security for a long time. to unveilting ready technology. i was disappointed to see that your budget decreases funding for border technology. question, ir that will ask an additional one. >> it is the force multiplier. track to implement our technology procurement. as you know, what i did last year was stop the investment in having one integrated power plant across the entire border because it was expensive and was

not working. more off-the- shelf technology that fits a particular terrain. if we are going to talk about comprehensive immigration reform, we not be able to that. the increase of the budget on i went to afghanistan and we talked about the technologies we much in agreement. excess surplus, they're willing to share with their department. >> the budget includes $43

million which is some dod. some of those air stats are not in the best shape. not a perfect solution, but the point is an important one. to the extent we have already invested in r&d, we can transfer over the border. of of the showd thing that we are investing in. areff-the-shelf thing we investing in. >> we put the r&d and to them, and this makes a lot of sense. i will recognize the ranking member for his questions. madam secretary, in light of boston and with respect to the resources that we are putting do you feel the proposed

budget will be adequate to address that situation and any ongoing probability for the next fiscal year? >> i think the president's ed budgeteets the respesf the with then do your job money? >> yes. been issues about morality department, and i addressed this into my opening statement. address thelan to thatts that have come out we laughed with the effective leadership and support for diversity.

>> we have done a number of things, including forming an executive steering committee just on morale. we have gone back and a question to some of our employees. it is pretty generic. in the department, many people have been promoted to a first- line supervisor because they were good at their operational front-line job and they did not necessarily receive training on how to be a supervisor. it isdionalkills at. nore providing tt nd we have instituted ways to get input ie decion i will share wit you, f budget uncertainties, pay

uncertainty, sequester has been a difficult field to make people feel better about their jobs. we will do all that we can. the employees are the engine of the department. >> we identified interlock ability. require locals to communicate with each other. we spent several hundred million dollars trying to do that. what is your proposal to get interlock ability -- interoperability in dhs? >> not referencing that

particular report, but we have enough center of ability to get it done -- interoperability to get it done. i have dealt with these issues over the years and throughout the country, hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent on interoperable sthe oths happened is when congress set aside a public safety spectrum, the broadband spectrum, and established the first board and set aside a fun source for that, the board has private and public theyr representatives, are coming up with what will be a comprehensive answer is that will be more comprehensive and cheaper than anything that has been looked at before.

i would suggest that we keep you informed on the progress. i must say, it is one of the most encouraging things i have seen in government in a long time. you at issue with the inspector general? >> i do not know which report you are referring to. >> of the one that came out. >> there are so many. to follow upppy with you on that. >> the last report came out and fall of last year and said we spent $430 million on int eroperability. cross-still can't communicate with each other. if this is your response, i need to know a timetable where we can

expect members of congress can expect that to happen. >> it is a very aggressive timetable. >> if you would provide it to the committee in writing, that would be most helpful. in respect to west, texas, can you tell us whether or not that fertilizer facility for chemical plant facility was regulated? >> we don't know yet. they're drilling down on that. >> sir, we have been engaged over the past hours making sure that the response is all that wh mediate aftermath -

>> u that. all i am saying, that is just a matter of looking at the record. what is covered, i am not asking for any details. askedly this morning, i the very same question. i just don't have the answer for you yet. >> that is what i was looking for. thank you. >> thank you, mr. chairman, and thank you for everything you are doing in boston. they all basically come from boston. indicates thiss

could be the weapon of choice. the subcommittee was one of them. we determined these tanabe remote control or not, can you give us what progress we have made? thei only real criticism i have heard is the use complex -- complex e-mail esseand phone mb is there any way the federal government and urge them to use it in the plays of 911, something that makes it easier in the time of crisis? there is a general consensus that there was no federal intelligence, at least as of now. there was no intelligence

indicating something would happen. it seemed to me as we are getting al qaeda overseas, terrorist groups foreign and domestic getting more sophisticated, that the federal role, as important as it is, we need an import local. if you believe there is enough start -- funding to building of more local because using federal intel may not be sufficient in the near future, i look forward to your questions. onen the jamming question, of the key differences between military use of jamming equipment and using it in a domestic civilian environment is it is difficult to jam only bad stuff. you end up interfering with signals more generally in a civilian environment. inre were two early pilots

2006 and 2007 in the department to look at whether that anti- scanning technology could be used in a civilian way. but i do not know whether there is new research being done in that regard. getting bac to the chance for progress -- i can understand the probms you are talking about. it would go a great way toward minimizing the issue. >> exactly. we do not know whether or not this was remotely detonated. , we encourage state and locals and religious organizations and others to tie into a simple line. 911 orority use either whatever the tip line is for that particular department.

your point is well taken. we want it to be as simple and memorable as we can. the third question -- the intel. i think that is an interesting question. because we do not know whether this was domestic or international, particularly where domestic is concerned, there is a particularly valuable role for intelligence that is collected and analyzed at the local level, irrespective of boston, this is something we have and what to look at. we are using the fusion centers and hope to build capacity there in this regard. the boston fusion center turns out to be one of the strongest ones in the country. we have been using them in the last couple of days as a way to exchange information. but your point is well taken. has 1000 cops g

after intelligence. with that, i yield back. i have several things about. i want tthan you for having a reconstructed fbi net and be done it. i just want to say that because i think it will be important for your department to educate congress on what really can be done with respect to technology, especially as we move forward on the border security peace of possible immigration plan. understand, but the rest of congress in some ways does not have a good idea of what -- of what can and cannot be done with technology. i was hoping you would help us with that. >> in the.

-- indeed. of thege county is one largest regional areas that has offered it in between 3-4 cities in state, federal, regional, etc., and it cost us quite a bit of money. the price tag is pretty heavy on that. that has been one of the problems with respect to try to get that under way. especially if it, we are going to ask states to do it for the federal government. i have a question about the coast guard. i am one of the few members said spoke on the armed services committee.nd on this when you testified in front of the house appropriatis committe you say the coa guard now has a different production path for vessel acquisitions in order to meet the mission needs.

on tuesday, the coast guard testified this budget reduces coast guard drug addictions because it cannot maintain operations while rebuilding the fleet. is this a different -- has this different plan been submitted to congress? is the coast guard going to reduce capabilities in order to modernize its fleet? if so, can you provide this committee on documentation of that? to be ams to me different path. we will not do as much because we need to rebuild over here. >> the point i was making was that we use a different production path for the fast response cutter. we fully funded the top priority, the completion of the

national security cover fleet. the national security cutters have a lot of uses. but they do not require as many to operate as some of see smaller vessels. they have more technology on them. have had to reduce -- i have been public about auto meet thee given. the sequester what accounts. had we compensated for that, we are working with dod in areas trying to leverage more with state and local entities. make no mistake if sequester continues, by definition, it will be it with respect to capability with the coast guard. >> if your department could provide us a plan this a new

vessel plan, i would appreciate it. maybe we just have not seen it in the last year or two. the other question i have for you, first of all, you visit the exit part. that is another thing we see on the senate side coming forth. the last time you were before it is something that will require we get an immigration plan. >> if i might, one of the things we are really requesting this oear is to move the visit where l of our other it would be a much better place to centralize all of thon one place, as opposed to keeping

u.s. visit by itself. i would ask you to look at that request. secondly, with respect to exit, we have submitted a plan enhanced -- on enhanced by a graphic and long-term biometric. my understanding, and we are still going through the bill that is introducing the senate, my understanding is the way gets a part of that is written is ultimately doable. >> that would be great. again, that bill will change quite a bit. it is a major problem that 40% of the people do not leave our country. that is something i might be looking for when i vote for an immigration bill. thank you. i yield back. >> i am in agreement. 40% of the illegals here are hereby over stated the says.

mr. rogers. >> thank you, mr. chairman, and thank you for being here, madam secretary, and your service to the country. i was pleased to hear you acknowledge that we have spent an enormous amount of money on emerging communications and still have not achieved an acceptable degree of and profitability and we have to find a different approach. as a former mentor -- member of the communications subcommittee, that is an enormous frustration to me. i hope you plow ahead and indifo make that happen. events like this week are reminders. also, events like this week are a great reminr of whha such an t investment in preparing fit reon

you saw the hospital personnel, you saw the facility there to train for mass casualties. it has been a wise investment by this department. i appreciate it. weeks like this are said. it is a good reminder to us why we make those investments. those are appreciated. one of the concerns i have got is the bhs and a science and technology department over the last several years has made an investment in advanced explosive detection canine research out of texas. it is very disappointing about that. you are a big supporter of explosive detection can on activities and its ability to protect us.

in events like boston, if we had them there, sweeping the area, by closing the genetic research cityg ing edge work, we are now at the mercy of the private market. can you tell me why that was closed? given it was closed, the you intend to leave contract with folks to do that kind of research so that we can produce our own assets here domestically and not be subject to world markets for the core assets we did not train up? >> if i might, you and i are both big fans of canines and their capabilities. recognizing they are not the only answer. >> it is part of the layers. >> my understanding is we do intend to follow on the research in another way. if i might give you a separate information about that, i think it would be more useful to you. >> i would appreciate that.

i'm also talking about partnerships outside of the department geared one of my frustrations was i do t see enough interaction with the private sector and the department. i am a member of the homeland's security committee and the armed services committee. we see a lot of private partnership between dod and the private sector to achieve technological capabilities that we could not do without them. there seems to be able locks in --in that department. can you tell us what you are doing in the acquisition side to reach out to the private sector and bring them as a partner to help them achieve capabilities that we do not have? >> we have very aggressive outreach. one difference between bhs and

dod is their research budget is infinitely larger than ours. the public -- public-private partnerships are more numerous than ours. we will push as much as we have resources. >> mr. heston is following up. we have been pretty impressive private-sector folks to talk about what we can do to improve communications. that has been difficult. in the past, these folks have come to us and said, we cannot talk to anybody in the department. anything you can do to try to drill down to your management folks that they need to try to create real, open access, i

think it would be beneficial to both parties. thank you. >> i am sorry to heaat>> thank . the air no the gentleman from arizona. >> thank you. oftentimes, when you come to the committee, we range misses -- criticism on the permit. i believe it is the most challenging job in the cabinet, the one you hold. guarding our country against terrorist attacks, very successful.

i want to acknowledge the progress that has been made before i ask some questions about the challenges remain. the highest on the list, at least for many of us, is the impact of sequestration on the department. as you know from previous conversations, sequestration in its initial look has -- is going to hit very hard. i appreciate the department's willing -- willingness to delay furloughs. we gave additional money back to the department, flexibility i know in conversations with you that you are currently working on the programming requests. i would like to know what

progress is being made and, additionally, how you are communicating with the men and women who are likely to be affected with their families. there is a great deal of uncertainty. this is adding to the morale problem. you could speak to us about progress being made toward reducing, i know you cannot eliminate these cuts. reducing them significantly so we can both secure the border, expedite the flow of legal commercial traffic, and give certainty back to the lives of these people. as you also know, the pace systems for customs are different than the pay systems for border patrol. they have never been unified theory that make a difference where sequestration is concerned. here is what we are doing. we have already gone through the sequestration legislation.

those complete by the end of the week and move the process along as quickly as we can. is to absolutely minimize the effect on auo premium pay for border patrol. it is difficult. it is difficult to figure out how much we can pay our men and women. thegoal is to minimize disruption in their compensation. what might they expect the earliest possible time?

>> i wish i could give you a definite date. i do not know. texas and in south was down, as you know, in the douglas area. effect the uncertainty is having on men and women. we are moving as quickly as we can. >> i want toovkly to the issue we have often discussed here. how is it we measure border security? can you tell us what project -- progress was made towards getting those metrics?

>> it is frustrating for everybody. in our view, we have provided mattress up the was 2. i do not know how to spell that. they just use them in a different way than we use them. if this is ao see safer and more secure border than last year? what is the trend? if you look at things like apprehensions and crime rates, the trend line is all positive. we know we are making significant progress and have made significant progress along the border. we know it is not done. there is more work to do.

we want to sustain and build on that. we will work with the congress and what you -- and what have you. as i mentioned yesterday in the hearing, there is no one magic number. al have to look at the whole picture, and then inform it with real life experience. it does require getting down the border,ngot onlth agents, but with police chiefs and sheriffs and mayors of the little town that align our border and so forth. that is what we attempt to do, as well. >> thank you. i yield back. >> let me thank the gentleman for his for it -- for his support. think it is important we have metrics. there are some who have served and it has never been more secure. stated argue in my home the numbers are increasing in thes of apprehensions, so

chair now recognizes the vice chair of the full committee. >> thank you very much. your you, secretary, for attendance here today. i have been listening. as the chair of subcommittee on borders, i will pick up right where it was left off. appreciative of your trying to quantify and give us your best estimate of what border securitoks like it -- withegarc. i think there is always a moment in time in politics where something can happen. that ment is probably now for comprehensive in -- comprehensive immigration refo. not happen, does the window with close.

i think absent some sort of ,etric system we can quantify with a high degree of confidence that we are moving toward an adequate amount of border control, or whatever term we want to utilize, i think immigration reform will be a heavy lift. i mentioned it to your staff when he testified before our subcommittee that it would be too bad if the department of homeland's security became the stumbling block for content -- comprehensive immigration reform because we are not satisfied with what we are getting, there is no one else to ask. it is difficult. securing the border with a layered approach, there has been progress made. still, as was mentioned to us by you a couple of years ago, the

term, operational control, was antiquated. i have an open mind to that. then what? board ofere told the control in debts will be the term that would be used. the matrixthou be utiliz. we were anticipating several weeks ago in thism at w hearing what the construct of that actually was, where we were with it, etc. looking with the various components about whether it is operational control or whatever it is. control, bootsal on the ground, utilization of various kinds of technology, or land systems, or, the next version. all of these kinds of things, and also recognizing sometimes you can secure a portion of the border and then, six months later, you have a different situation. i believe all of us understand

that. it is not a static thing. it is a dynamic situation you are dealing with. you mentioned yesterday comments he made at a hearing. i looked at some of that, as well. a press release you put out said, every metric showed significant progress. wee le the onnglyhi are hearing is about apprehension. that is a component, in my mind. it is a component that cannot be -- it is something we need to know, what is happening in regards to the apprehension. then, we are not really mention i woullike to have u flesh thut aittle re abouttrix i appreciate your position and what your saying. but in my observat something done, much more

specific than what we havead f by your department, i do believe it can be the stumbling block to a comprehensive immigration reform, and we do not what -- want that to happen. >> we do not. i have been advocating for this since my first day in washington d.c. two things. on the line of apprehensions, the missing piece has been a better ability to identify the denominator. we know how many we apprehend. billy being able to detect the attempt has been difficult. looking at the senate-proposed if and how that is drafted, the technology ps is supplied to us, with a funding mechanism for that, so that we can sustain the efforts we already have and build on them, one of the problems with orders security has always been, we secure an area and leave it. then the border changes.

the way that is written, and how it is informed by technology, is a doable deal. >> i appreciate that. you are mentioning, along with funding. i feel your department needs to tell us what its in regards tos and. it is for us to determine whether or not we have the political will as a congress to ensure that happens. it is part of one of our responsibilities under the constitution. the border security is an important thing in every way. we want to work with your department to make sure we have some sort of system -- system, metric, accountability, whatever term you want to utilize. our term uses the operational control. we have defaulted to that.

expired. time is i will leave it at that. >> i thank you for all your hard work as chairman. i absolutely agree. you need to tell us, these are tough budgetary times, but we can authorize. it is important we get this done right. i now recognize the gentleman from new jersey. >> thank you. you for yourank service to this nation over the past five years. it has been a difficult journey , but we appreciate everything you do every single day. it has really been good to see you in the last two weeks three so you are us abreast of what is going on.

i have a question in reference regarding the proposal to consolidate the grants under a single national prepared this grant program. my district includes number new jersey. we sit across from new york city. it includes an airport, a seaport, rail lines, bus lines, and chemical plants all in between. my district relies heavily on many of these individual grants. the transit security grant. how do you think of a consolidation of those grants will impact a district such as mine. from sooal is to move many of these point -- these grant programs either inherited or were part of the 9/11 act. from response

capabilities that happened after sandy, now after boston and so forth, we have built a fair amount of capacity and resilience around the country. we want to move to a risk-based approach for further funding of grants. an effort consolidate to unify grant guidance and reduce administrative overhead. sure areas that have lotsf itical anthe , that we fund those according to sk, as opposed to having to use formula grants through many ofurams. it really will depend. our whole goal is, let's identify risks and gaps and where the money should go. >> in the past, funding for state, local, and grant programs had been cut

considerably. in addition to the funding cuts, i am very concerned about this consolidation effort. congressman,, congress has cut the grants over the president's objection. didof the things congress when it passed a budget for the department was restore some grant funding. >> ok. jersey, we will get back to interrupt ability. in new jersey, it is currently operating an coordinator. that is happening to other states as the grant winds down. i believe it ends in september. .hat is a great concern as we talk about moving toward isst, which i understand

still in the planning process, as theting up to speed, coroners are leaving, the one in new jersey left this past month vera state experien the se thing how do we move toward getting it up when we are losing the coordinators' that would be an integral part of that system. theart of that is what state would want to support on its own. not everything should be paid for by federal grant money. experience as a governor on this issue was every bit as frustrating as being expressed by members of the committee. we have spent way too much money

for far too little coverage. did notthe reason is we have adequate private public partnerships going on. was more a vendor-by your vendor, bytion -- year, some of of the -- vendor- buyer-type of situation. >> i have several chemical facilities in my district that could experience the same thing we have seen in west texas. undstand, fema is monitoring the situation. it scene in texas? >> they are nearby.

i do not know if they are physically on the scene. >> how are they prepared to assist? >> we can do a number of things. we have an instant management assistant's team standing on standby right now. i thank you. have an amendment on the floor to the building and intel cyber security bill that provides a civilian interface for the private sector for threat information. that being the primary -- primary interface for homelands 30, with at the is the right way to go for cyber security. robust office of civil liberties we have within your department tribally that is the best way to protect the lives of the american people. i have to depart from that. for theommend you increase in our budget for cyber security.

of the biggest threats in the virtual world. a good segue, the chairman of the cyber security committee. >> thank you. thank you, secretary, for your being here. i see in you someone who is symbolic of many people in boston who are in the front lines today with their dedication and resilience. through you, i express o appreciation forheo're doing. i hanother issue, asa ranking me circulating, along with the representative, a letter of concern. i thought we would get about 25 signatures on it. we are already over 70. i will send that to you in a day or so.

i hope we can discuss -- discuss that issue at some future time. i worry what we are doing is creating a competitive imbalance for american airlines, in which foreign companies are able to put into position a benefit for their foreign-based airlines. i am also very appreciative of the great work you are doing on cyber. your colleague at the fbi and testimony not so long ago, notwithstanding even what we are seeing in boston, the cyber may soon replace terrorism as the number-one issue and threat in -- to deny states, i was struck by the secretary of defense, mr. panetta. one of the first things he did was to go to new york and talk about a cyber pearl harbor. it is an issue significantly greater than many americans have an appreciation for.

i know you do. many americans do not appreciate the extent of theulnerability per 90% of our cyber structure is in the private sector. that ishave something an issue, there are also cross sector is paying a lot of attention to what is going on in the bank. if ouraid to me, electrical grid goes down, it will affect it in that way, as well. there are a lot of cross- sectional issues. we are also dealing with instantaneous communication. things are happening by the second. those things make a difference. can you explain to me how the investments you are making our enabling homeland's security to -- to be onorefront the forefront of the cutting edge and utilize relationships with the private sector to encourage them to become partners with us in protecting

our critical infrastructure? >> yes. i will try to keep my answer short because there are so many things we are doing. at intersection with the private sector, absolutely key. if we are serious about cyber security. in real timested information and sharing. quickly information is shared, the better we are able gati.lp with response and we are asking for money to industrial control system 7 watched fund the 24- center, where we have private sector partners on the floor with the spirit quests that is a the private- where sector can protest a directly, where we ran asking questions about how we can encourage private sector to suspicion. this is a place where it takes

place. >> that is correct. expand it will have to over time as our responsibilities increase, pursuant to the executive order, the presidential policy directed. hopefully, through the amendment that the chairman was speaking about. ab include members of thed be private sector? when we talk about other kinds of things, we would like to do more. the fact of the matter is, a lot of private sectors are at or above the best the government can do in forms of technologies and other kinds of things. thus inviting them in enhance our capacity overall? >> yes. just the ability to discuss ideas and get the relevant people in the same place, there is a value to it. we are encouraging that kind of location. the and cake is a very vital

place. literallyat, we have responded to hundreds of thousands of cyber incidents just this past year. that is only going up. >> as we deal with the minute nature and changing threat of cyber, because of the fact that technology chang so quickly, how about your acquisition regulations and the ability for you to be able to work through the acquisition of the highest and greatest technology? are you bought down at all by requirements that may take weeks, if not months, to get something approved? and therefore, many times, technology may be obsolete by the time to put it in place? problem throughout the government. acquisition is too slow for the private world. where we had asked

for legislative help last year, in a senate cyber bill that ultimately did not pass, the statute --ill, was a -- authority to allow us to higher in the cyberworld to the same degree and as a can. we are relieved from some of the normal hiring restraints and salary restraints that confine us. side professionals, it is a very competitive marketplace for them. >> thank you. at this time, the chair recognizes mr. over from texas. >> thank you. madam secretary, i also want to thank you for your worked. through you, the men and women whoe o countave,ho help make the community i represent the safest in america for the last three yrs in pite living next to one of the mdangerousities in the world, bar ne.

statement you made in your opening comments about reduced operational capacity at our ports of entry. as it relates to the sequester. in a previous hearing, you talked about, because of the sequester, five-urt tim d become the norm going forward. i want to ask you where we are now, given the additional flexibility and the continual resolution as it relates to write -- wait times that our ports, and where we will be should this budget be approved and you get the resources you are asking for. what kind of wait times can we expect, given the importance of our ports of entry to the national economy and local economies like mine? >> even without the sequester, we were short of court officers and staffing.

because we --as they were paid for out of user fees and they were diminished out of a recession. it got to be a gap. those are incredibly important. they are responsible for hundreds of thousands of jobs in the united states. president has asked for 1300 more port offices. we believe that will meet our needs for the future. wait times for -- to a minimum. in the meantime, we will do everything we can to mitigate the time spirit i cannot to the precise hours per request one more request, as you know, communities like el paso that i represent are willing to commit resources, millions of dollars from local taxpayers, to compment the investment you are making to our ports. what we do not have that would help us make bte decisions about this is your workload staffing model, understanding how you staff the different

courts in our committees. we want to know those answers so that we can make a wise investment at the local level. i want to be able to give back to constituents who send us or photos, get to the front of the line, and out of 11 potential lanes, only see four of them staffed and opened. just being able to be transparent and responsive and communicate to our constituents about how you staff those would be important. can you commit to getting us your work low staffing model and would it be possible to commit to a date? >> we will provide you with the staffing model because it forms the basis for the request. i will ask my staff to get that to you as quickly as possible. addressld also like to some comments he made about comprehensive immigration reform. i really appreciate what i think i heard you say, which is, if we are able to pass immigration reform, that in itself will help

make the border more secure. you will be able to focus resources and attention on our greatest party threats. the existential quest -- thle who want to come in, kill american citizens, do us harm, obstruct our economy, as well as the other criminal activity we should focus on. i appreciate you sing that paired with in this budget you are proposing, do you have the resources necessary to carry out your obligations as it relates to comprehensive immigration reform? in your answer, do you want to touch on what is proposed from the senate or the senate plan? an additional $3 billion toward the border civilians and another $1.50 billion toward extending the border wall? >> s. , weink, my answer would be are still going through it, as you might imagine. but, if those resources are provided and sustained, and i

think that is a key thing, there needs to be a commitment to sustain the border security measures that are there. that, and assuming we fund the technology plans we have already provided to the congress, i believe we can build on the efforts we have already done. i believe the manpower we have at the border is adequate. yes, we can meet the measures we have seen. >> can i get you to resndo get t request of thatlegiationo add additional mileage to the border law a fanner been of arbitrary build a fence. say, show me a call-foot ladder.

again, we are looking at that. there are different kinds of fencing. burke will, or other types of if the structure. we are looking about what would go into that. a part of our comprehensive strategic plan for the borders, which includes the technology, thaeal, and the manpower as well. >> thinking. the chair recognizes the gentleman from south carolina. >> let me say thank you for what you and the department do to keep america safe. i appreciate it. but we also thank you for answering the questions yesterday and the purchases the dhs is making. we get a lot of those questions as members of congress from all over the country. as part of that, we have asked them to do an audit so we can deal with facts and answer those

questions for the american people. you,uestion i have for when forbes magazine, or reparable eat news sources, start repeating the numbers, they cease to have cdibility. why was there a long delay for almost three months before you came forth and said, these numbers are not correct. these are the actual fact. -- facts. >> i do not know there was that kind of delay. we fnd ier that thosstatements would beads hard to asibe credibility to them. i do not know if i would put those twoazines in the sam sentence, but let me beclas i c.

>> i think they are credible, but the "fords" is a credible magazine. when they use that number and we -- fromence for half the department, -- >> itcted got in the -- blogosphere. up to thosetract one point whatever rounds. it is an up to number. we usually use 100 fit -- 160 million crowns a year. we do all the federal law enforcement training. foro a lot of the training state locals. plus our own operational needs. >> you did a great job. i submit for the record her testimony yesterday in the senate. >> without objection. >> i answered -- you answer those questions after day and i appreciated that. i was asking about why there was

a delight. these numbers are not right. >> it did not start getting into it. if we could have been quicker to the ball, perhaps. again. justur own defense, we could not believe anybody would believe those allegations. let me be very clear. absolutely not true. >> i appreciate that. let's shift gears. i am concerned about this purpose -- prison of interest. he iseptedeek. i undetand he has clear of any wroinlvem in boston. he being deported due to national security concerns. this gentleman is here. he was at the scene along with many other people when the blast happened.

three boston detectives see this guy moving quickly out of the crowd. as they are watching him, he seems to be moving very deliberately, which could be a natural thing after a bombing. takingop him and end up it in -- taken him into the hospital. we are asking average americans to help id and assist law enforcement. if you see something, say something. we have somebody being deported due to national security concerns. i am assuming he has a link to terror. he is at the scene and he could possibly i.d. the bomber just like we are asking every other american who is on the scene to provide your pitchers and help us identify. everybody, we are asking that. we got this guy who is there. -- who was there. we know he was there. he was at the scene. yet, we are going to deport him. might, i am not aware of

anyone who is being deported for national security concerns at all related to it. i am -- i do not know where that -- >> he is being deported. >> like i said, again, i do not even think he was technically a person of interest or a suspect. proceedingare of any there. i will clarify that for you. but i think this is an example of why it is so important to let law enforcement do its job. >> i want them to do their job. will you not agree with me is negligent for us as an american adminiration toepmeone who was reportedly ae scene of there goi deport him, not to be able to question him anymore? is that negligence? >> i will not answer that question. it is so full of misstatements and misapprehensions' that it is just not worthy of an answer. cbs reports the gym and was there. we detained him at hospital.

him ofared wrongdoing. has been reported -- >> there has been so much reported on this that is wrong, i cannot begin to tell you. we will provide you with acrobat -- accurate information as it becomes available. >> thank you, i appreciate that. >> i think the chairwoman and the ranking member for this hearing. i think the secretary, as well. i will be asking some of my questions to be in writing. i have an amendment on the floor dealing with the cyber security bill. i want to thank you and lee announced, if you see something, say something. you were in my district a year or two ago. we spoke about it. we certainly remember times good americans and good new yorkers who saw something and said something. i want to remind everybody of that. may i just again, this has been one week. i want to go straight to west

texas and say this. if they are not under the process, can we galvanize resources under homeland's security? it is the anchor of health and there is a devastation, as well. even in light of them maybe not having a security plan? what kinds of resources could be teickly gvanize for them wi look into that immediately. >> thank you very much. i know there a for the first responders who lost their lives beard my deepest athies. i want to go straight to the question of border security. and you for revealing the we have been on here and let me tell you where we were going with that. i could get a specific answer. we want to be a partner. this is a road map. $1.50s an answer to a billion fans. recants -- careful in your answer to that. know -- we- i do not

work.hat will not what kind of answers can you give us that we can get the ways we should be looking at an assessing the border? >> you want to see, do we have the situational awareness of the highly-traffic areas of the border and the ability to respond? accountes into infrastructure and ground technology, air technology, manpower, and all the rest. border, and i the step back and say, what we need? do we havecus on, awareness of the earth? that is where our technology plans come into play. thatis why we are asking is what is comprehended. our technology plans are there.

and we havebility to respond. >> what we have offered in this legislation, as i said in a very inspirational way, forward dhs to be in-- -- for dhs with us. when a tragedy happens, they look to you. i know the fbi is investigating boston. they are also looking to us. can i quipping know whether there was a fusion center in that area? we worked very hard to get these in terms of having people work together. my concern is, are we going to get -- my concern was the lack of credible threat. that seems surprising to me. will we be able to get a briefing to determined what might have been happening and how the fusion center is working? >> you are talking about boston? yes. all of theng into

things in the investigation, i will say there is a good fusion center there. they have been actively involved there it will be happy to provide a briefing on how the fusion center has been used and is operating in the boston case >> i hope we can have a briefing with homeland security and others. let me just finish. i will just say again, we have given every opportunity for if youtrative to delay, will, is moving on. everywhere i go, people are horrified. we do not want to have a confrontation. we like to have a reason opportunity for more stakeholders to be heard. i just ask whether or not it would be reasonable. you have agreed with him. here is the question. an extension, in light of it, are going to be shortchanged.

we will have long lines their party know that. i travel in and out of this. ink i something repaired i ask you to make the request for inquiry or give me an answer back. let me just say having met with border patrol agents, i want to make sure -- i want to than you for retracting the furlough. i do think it is important to underestimate the need for more patro agents. i know there is some funding and the president's budget. i support more funding for even though they have a high number. do you have a comment on the nights and any opportunity for more stickle this to be involved and more opportunity for discussion? >> with respect to that, as we discussed, i think it is the right policy. i think, however, we can always look at how better to improve stakeholder outreach. i will talk with the administrator about that. part of yourond question? >> in the border patrol agents.

taking away the furlough. >> we are trying to mitigate any furloughs. we do not have a final answer yet. >> i ask that you look at that very carefully here and i yield back and thank you very much. >> we recognize the gentleman from pennsylvania. >> thank you. in dallas, the director of policy studies gave testimony that focused on internal dhs statistics showing a significant decline in the number of deportations. she also described how the administration has cut its removal statistics in a way that gives lawmakers and the public's the impression that foemt has iroved. was asked to analyze a set of mostly unpublished stistics and documents on vhs enforcement activity over the last five years. in her testimony, she said the

materials show that contrary to the administration's claims, they have achieved record levels of enforcement and the number of removals' is 40% lower than in june 2011. removal of convicted criminals are also running at 40% lower now than in june 2011. removals' generated by enforcement and the removals' division, which carries out most of what little interior immigration enforcement is done are 50% lower now than in june 2011. the decline has occurred despite the expansion if ice is removing so few people, how can they have a record number of duplication? >> i do not know how she does her math. i know how i do mine. i look at removals of the country. we have removed more people from the u.s. than any prior

administration. i cannot respond to an individual and how she cooks her books. i can tell you what i look at. i look at implementation and how many convicted felons we are removing. i ok at how many repeat violators we are removing. i get complaints from the other side who say we are removing too many.